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Originally Posted by
Coach34
The people who can do that pass it to people who will post it on a message board. What gets me is that I'm hearing that Cohen is blaming Keenum and Keenum is blaming Cohen. If that's true- that's a ****ing problem.
John does nothing without Keenums approval. That's where those who want to assign blame can look.
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Originally Posted by
fader2103
I am tired of these, I know someone who is friends with someone who found out something.
I want someone to come out and say John Cohen told me this personally.
Everything you saw posted here Thursday, was told to many media people by the horse, I mean gelding himself. That?s why the ones I know were shocked at the announcement. Anything other than a convincing win, and they were told SloMo was gone. A sloppy ass win that could have easily been a loss and they all expected the gelding to follow through on his initial word.
After the game there was some funny business and a certain someone backed out of the initial agreement and started acting like a petulant brat with threats.
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Cohen is actually pretty small minded , petty and sometimes pulls bush league stunts publicity wise
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Can someone refresh my memory. Did Vic walk into a top 15 team with multiple future professional players? Maybe I missed that part.
If The Gelding really did say this, he needs to be fired before SloMo is.
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Originally Posted by
RougeDawg
Can someone refresh my memory. Did Vic walk into a top 15 team with multiple future professional players? Maybe I missed that part.
If The Gelding really did say this, he needs to be fired before SloMo is.
I’m surprised he didn’t compare Joe to himself to be honest. Would have been a much better comparison for sure. Except Joe has been more successful in years one and two.
Should have gotten the brat to agree to that deal in writing. Hindsight is 20/20.
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Originally Posted by
Saltydog
No, he isn't dumb enough to post it on social media but I can assure you it was said. I won't give anymore details but you dang well know if one player feels like that there are many others.
The 247 guys have mentioned that some Of the older guys have not bought in. If the person you are talking about is an older guy that will actually be a little bit encouraging because it gives me hope that the younger guys that Joe actually recruited will be giving more effort and have more belief that this can work.
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Originally Posted by
bobcat91
John does nothing without Keenums approval. That's where those who want to assign blame can look.
Well, I guess that’s pretty smart since he works for him. I don’t agree with my boss sometimes but I usually end up giving in. It’s pretty lucrative.
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Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
Well, I guess that?s pretty smart since he works for him. I don?t agree with my boss sometimes but I usually end up giving in. It?s pretty lucrative.
Makes sense to me...
"Live every day like it was your last one.....And one day you're gonna be right"..Willie Nelson
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Yes, it is an upperclassman. I get what you're saying but a lot of the younger guys look up to the juniors and seniors to set the tone. I guess we'll see and you may certainly be correct about the guys he's brought in but that's only one class.
"The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)
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Originally Posted by
bobcat91
John does nothing without Keenums approval. That's where those who want to assign blame can look.
People say that- but I'm not so sure.
I posted from my source that we were going to hire Kenny Payne as our HC because that's who Keenum told him that is who we were going to hire.
I posted from my source that we were going to get rid of Moorhead- because that is what Keenum told him was going to happen.
I have a hard time believing Keenum lies to people that have their names on buildings. That doesn't keep you in your position very long
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
People say that- but I'm not so sure.
I posted from my source that we were going to hire Kenny Payne as our HC because that's who Keenum told him that is who we were going to hire.
I posted from my source that we were going to get rid of Moorhead- because that is what Keenum told him was going to happen.
I have a hard time believing Keenum lies to people that have their names on buildings. That doesn't keep you in your position very long
Tongue and cheek here: Keenum and Cohen used the sources to make fans think Moorhead was gone to get people to the game.
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Originally Posted by
parabrave

says it all. Compare JoMo 1st 2 years to Vics'. Says JOMO is smart and he (Cohen) likes to surround himself with Smart people, BTW So did Westmoreland,. Talks about how he loves JOMOs recruitingv style and he told JOMO that this bowl game is business and must be treated like a business trip. But nothing about JOMOs coaching ability/
Oh my, he didn't just try to compare Joe to Vic??? Whew talk about disconnected. Now we see where the problem is. The only comparison of Joe is with Croom.
Joe needs to take notes from Vic who has played and won championships. He could learn about that championship standard.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
People say that- but I'm not so sure.
I posted from my source that we were going to hire Kenny Payne as our HC because that's who Keenum told him that is who we were going to hire.
I posted from my source that we were going to get rid of Moorhead- because that is what Keenum told him was going to happen.
I have a hard time believing Keenum lies to people that have their names on buildings. That doesn't keep you in your position very long
If that is the case, the AD out doing his own thing would be out looking for a job. But he is still employed
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
Oh my, he didn't just try to compare Joe to Vic??? Whew talk about disconnected. Now we see where the problem is. The only comparison of Joe is with Croom.
Joe needs to take notes from Vic who has played and won championships. He could learn about that championship standard.
The sad part is we have a large portion of our fans that are eating this up. Blind sheep...
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Originally Posted by
bobcat91
If that is the case, the AD out doing his own thing would be out looking for a job. But he is still employed
That's not entirely accurate, there are a lot more politics in play, it's not as simple as you are laying it out to be.
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Originally Posted by
Cowbell
The sad part is we have a large portion of our fans that are eating this up. Blind sheep...
Exactly as they want them to.
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
Tongue and cheek here: Keenum and Cohen used the sources to make fans think Moorhead was gone to get people to the game.
Ive been wondering the same thing Jack. As split as the fanbase is on Moorhead, it was a packed house with everyone pulling for a win Thursday night.
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Originally Posted by
bobcat91
If that is the case, the AD out doing his own thing would be out looking for a job. But he is still employed
The AD's job at the end of the day comes down to Booster backing- hell look at Keith Carter. He sang Luke's praises 2 weeks ago- fired him Sunday because he was told to by the Boosters. Money controls everything at the end of the day. Cohen had some money backing to keep Joe or he wouldn't have stood pat.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Saltydog
I don't have any inside info from anyone in the AD but I can unequivocally tell you this first hand.
I know for a fact that one of the players made the comment today that "the system doesn't fit in the SEC. Great guy but not a great coach".
You can be the smartest sob to ever step foot on the sideline but that doesn't make you a great coach, AT ALL. I think that's where a lot of people are missing boat. If the players don't buy in, nothing else matters. END OF STORY!
I'm concerned Cohen seems to be eaten up with trying to have an "intellectual" coach as his #1 criteria. That may work in some sports, including baseball, but not football. I personally don't think Cohen would have even hired Mullen had it been Cohen's choice. Mullen's playbook didn't have enough plays with 5 or 6 different QB reads. Wondering if the more complex something is the more Cohen is impressed.
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