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11-30-2019, 10:55 PM
#261

Originally Posted by
HailStateSZN19
I thought all the talk before some of this new stuff came out recently was that this decision was above Cohen and he wouldn’t be making this decision but now Cohen is keeping this from happening? (Apologize if I’m butchering that and it’s not true. This has been a shit storm to keep up with). I thought this was ultimately going to come down to Keenum and the boosters with the power but now it’s Cohen being big buds with Joe and going to bat for him that’s keeping this from getting done? Again, if I got that wrong, correct me because I’m trying to understand it. I’m not a seasoned vet keeping up with this stuff and knowing how this works.
Personally I’m wondering if Keenum is allowing this to happen to get rid of Cohen. The only way to do that is to get the Virginia Slims against Cohen.
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11-30-2019, 10:56 PM
#262
Senior Member

Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
You're not understanding it's quite simple:
The boosters that got Cohen hired support JoMo so Cohen is doing their biding and refusing to fire JoMo. Also, we don't have the money for the buyout. Also, all the boosters are united against Joe but we don't have the money. ALso all the boosters are unite against Joe and we do have the money but Cohen won't do it. Also, Keenum is both for and against Joe and is putting his weight into this. He's also staying out of it He's a big problem and one of the good guys, is what I"m saying. But of course, were still firing Joe and all is well, we're just letting things "play out" for a bit to get the buyout down. That rumor is supported by the fact Joe's for sure going to be here next year and it's all settled. But it's not settled, because many former alumni have been angered when they heard it was settled and are now contacting Cohen, who does and doesn't want to fire Joe but does and doesn't have the money to do so and does and doesn't have to play politics with the booster division which exists unless it doesn't.
Try to keep up, it's really not that complicated
This is why I love ED!
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11-30-2019, 10:56 PM
#263

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Are you suggesting that we put them in a car together and push them off into the Grand Canyon?**
They are willingly driving the car (Football Program) off the cliff, because the police (Cigar Boys) are hot on their tail after.
Louise(Cohen) killed somebody (Fanbase) for trying to screw her best friend Thelma(Moorvester)
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11-30-2019, 10:58 PM
#264

Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
It's hard to follow for ALL of us. I thought I had it basically figured out until this current set of leaks. Now I'm struggling to figure out exactly what's happening. Cluster17 is the most apt description imaginable at this point.
Clear as mud.
It must be a total shit show in the athletic department. Cohen getting blown up on Twitter. His phone blowing up. Boosters of varying wealth levels wanting to "have a word" with him. Keenum taking heat and calling him about the situation.
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11-30-2019, 10:58 PM
#265

Originally Posted by
Rex54
Clarify this: Why the **** does Cohen have any say in the matter? Why isn’t he standing in the hallway while Kennum and the angry people with names on buildings determine next steps?
This is an outstanding question. The initial leaks suggested that the Spineless Bastard wouldn't have any influence in Jughead being retained or not. But now he's able to tell everyone to follow Jughead's advice and kick rocks? And Hack seems to imply our SEC welfare check gives him that much power?
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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11-30-2019, 10:58 PM
#266

Originally Posted by
HailStateSZN19
I thought all the talk before some of this new stuff came out recently was that this decision was above Cohen and he wouldn?t be making this decision but now Cohen is keeping this from happening? (Apologize if I?m butchering that and it?s not true. This has been a shit storm to keep up with). I thought this was ultimately going to come down to Keenum and the boosters with the power but now it?s Cohen being big buds with Joe and going to bat for him that?s keeping this from getting done? Again, if I got that wrong, correct me because I?m trying to understand it. I?m not a seasoned vet keeping up with this stuff and knowing how this works.
Don't feel bad. I am a "seasoned vet" with very good contacts and this is the biggest WTF I've see in our athletic department in over 50 years and numerous WTF moments. A monumental CF even by MState standards.
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11-30-2019, 10:59 PM
#267
Makes sense all this shit went down today - history ****** repeating itself
ETA: meaning our Athletic Dept. and boosters being a shit show, not a statement about coaching quality
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Last edited by BrunswickDawg; 11-30-2019 at 11:01 PM.
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11-30-2019, 11:00 PM
#268

Originally Posted by
Churchill
A monumental CF even by MState standards.
That's quite an accomplishment.
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11-30-2019, 11:01 PM
#269

Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
Makes sense all this shit went down today - history ****** repeating itself
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But this is the opposite end of that spectrum. McKeen was highly successful here and lost to Ole Miss his last year. Joe has been extremely disappointing and has beaten Ole Miss.
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11-30-2019, 11:02 PM
#270

Originally Posted by
Churchill
Don't feel bad. I am a "seasoned vet" with very good contacts and this is the biggest WTF I've see in our athletic department in over 50 years and numerous WTF moments. A monumental CF even by MState standards.
It’s way crazier when Cohen took over for Polk.
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11-30-2019, 11:02 PM
#271

Originally Posted by
ScottH
That's quite an accomplishment.
Cohen and Keenum breaking State records, just as they promised! Damnit guys, we've gotta be more clear next time about which kind of record wed like to break. Understandable miscommunication
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11-30-2019, 11:02 PM
#272

Originally Posted by
ScottH
That's quite an accomplishment.
It would be impressive if it weren't so infuriating.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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11-30-2019, 11:02 PM
#273

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
But this is the opposite end of that spectrum. McKeen was highly successful here and lost to Ole Miss his last year. Joe has been extremely disappointing and has beaten Ole Miss.
Read my edit
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11-30-2019, 11:03 PM
#274

Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
Makes sense all this shit went down today - history ****** repeating itself
ETA: meaning our Athletic Dept. and boosters being a shit show, not a statement about coaching quality
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I WISH history would repeat itself. But then it would've been best for the revolt to fail, now it will be best for it to succeed. Seems like the worst possible outcome will happen both times
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11-30-2019, 11:03 PM
#275

Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
Makes sense all this shit went down today - history ****** repeating itself
ETA: meaning our Athletic Dept. and boosters being a shit show, not a statement about coaching quality
[tweet2]1200981185897336837[/tweet2]
Yep we can be our own worst enemy sometimes
ETA i get your meaning on this
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11-30-2019, 11:04 PM
#276
I don't buy any of this...... JoMo ain't going nowhere. We need to just get used to it.
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11-30-2019, 11:05 PM
#277

Originally Posted by
Commercecomet24
Heck at this point I'm expecting Cohen and joe to switch jobs
Them switching from the top to the bottom would be another likely scenario.
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11-30-2019, 11:06 PM
#278

Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
You're not understanding it's quite simple:
The boosters that got Cohen hired support JoMo so Cohen is doing their biding and refusing to fire JoMo. Also, we don't have the money for the buyout. Also, all the boosters are united against Joe but we don't have the money. Also all the boosters are unite against Joe and we do have the money but Cohen won't do it. Also, Keenum is both for and against Joe and is putting his weight into this. He's also staying out of it. He's a big problem and one of the good guys, is the gist of it. But of course, were still firing Joe and all is well, we're just letting things "play out" for a bit to get the buyout down. Not that that's needed because Rutgers will hire him. That rumor is supported by the fact Joe's for sure going to be here next year and it's all settled. But it's not settled, because many former alumni have been angered when they heard it was settled and are now contacting Cohen, who does and doesn't want to fire Joe but does and doesn't have the money to do so and does and doesn't have to play politics with the booster division which exists unless it doesn't.
Try to keep up, it's really not that complicated
LMAO ... that's a top-notch summary.
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11-30-2019, 11:07 PM
#279

Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
You're not understanding it's quite simple:
The boosters that got Cohen hired support JoMo so Cohen is doing their biding and refusing to fire JoMo. Also, we don't have the money for the buyout. Also, all the boosters are united against Joe but we don't have the money. Also all the boosters are unite against Joe and we do have the money but Cohen won't do it. Also, Keenum is both for and against Joe and is putting his weight into this. He's also staying out of it. He's a big problem and one of the good guys, is the gist of it. But of course, were still firing Joe and all is well, we're just letting things "play out" for a bit to get the buyout down. Not that that's needed because Rutgers will hire him. That rumor is supported by the fact Joe's for sure going to be here next year and it's all settled. But it's not settled, because many former alumni have been angered when they heard it was settled and are now contacting Cohen, who does and doesn't want to fire Joe but does and doesn't have the money to do so and does and doesn't have to play politics with the booster division which exists unless it doesn't.
Try to keep up, it's really not that complicated
I just want everyone to acknowledge that this is the single best post that has been written about this whole thing and 1000000 vcash should be awarded immediately.
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11-30-2019, 11:08 PM
#280

Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
We have a horrible coach that doesn't want to be here, has no incentive to recruit hard, or develop our young players, or make staff changes
Nice and accurate
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