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[gtowndawg]

Side note, but as others have said, Joe going to Rutgers is dead...

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2...into-town.html

[Liverpooldawg]

Then how do you reconcile those two feelings?

I don't want to pull for them either & in truth I'm going to cheer when we score (It's in my DNA), but I can't justify it if us winning means that our program is set back further

Again, assuming you can't have your cake & eat it too, how do you reconcile this in your mind?

You reconcile them by remembering who you are and who you are NOT. I am NOT a condescending, arrogant, smirking, better than you, entitled, Diddy's boy, Rebel BearShark Confederate prick. THAT is how I reconcile it and why I consider anyone who ever roots for them against us to be one of THEM.

[Commercecomet24]

Then how do you reconcile those two feelings?

I don't want to pull for them either & in truth I'm going to cheer when we score (It's in my DNA), but I can't justify it if us winning means that our program is set back further

Again, assuming you can't have your cake & eat it too, how do you reconcile this in your mind?

For one thing I'm a winner not a loser and I don't ever want to lose. For another Joe may be gone even if we win, so I'm always gonna pull for us to win, no matter who the opponent is(it doesn't have to be ole miss), i'm always gonna pull for us to win period. You can feel however you want to and I don't have to reconcile anything in my mind because I don't over analyze every single thing like you do. Emotional people like you jump from one emotion to another like a road lizard, me not so much.

[Liverpooldawg]

Joe's resume was fool's gold. He had a ringer at Fordham (an NFL level RB in the Patriot League) and all this wonderful offense he had at PSU was Franklin telling him what to call (that 4 or 5 game "adjustment" was Franklin going through his play book - cough,cough: Hud & Johnson).

If people really think not bringing in some one like Napier, Norvell or even Clawson is not improvement then they are clueless. Hell, Hud would be an improvement over Moorhead.

Our talent on the offensive side of the ball that he inherited was also fool's gold. Don't let what the defense had cloud your thinking.

[OLJWales]

I guess my problem is that I could never pull against State, especially the egg bowl even if we benefited from it regarding a much needed coaching change. I'm just not emotionally strong enough to go there because losing to ole miss is a gut punch to me that hurts bad for at least 3 days.

[Liverpooldawg]

For one thing I'm a winner not a loser and I don't ever want to lose. For another Joe may be gone even if we win, so I'm always gonna pull for us to win, no matter who the opponent is(it doesn't have to be ole miss), i'm always gonna pull for us to win period. You can feel however you want to and I don't have to reconcile anything in my mind because I don't over analyze every single thing like you do. Emotional people like you jump from one emotion to another like a road lizard, me not so much.

GREAT POST.

[gtowndawg]

For another Joe may be gone even if we win

Do we have any actionable intel that is the case? Where would he go? Rutgers is done and out of the question. Any other outlets implying he is being looked at for other jobs? I'm just looking for some hope here but I'm highly concerned Joe leaving on his own is just a pipe dream at this point.

[Liverpooldawg]

You reconcile them by remembering who you are and who you are NOT. I am NOT a condescending, arrogant, smirking, better than you, entitled, Diddy's boy, Rebel BearShark Confederate prick. THAT is how I reconcile it and why I consider anyone who ever roots for them against us to be one of THEM.

I'll qualify that by saying they aren't all that way, but there are enough of them. Even the one's that aren't get that way about sports.

[Liverpooldawg]

Do we have any actionable intel that is the case? Where would he go? Rutgers is done and out of the question. Any other outlets implying he is being looked at for other jobs? I'm just looking for some hope here but I'm highly concerned Joe leaving on his own is just a pipe dream at this point.

No. Rutgers was the only one and that was mostly just the usual Rebel controlled outlets. They went quiet because we are doing their work for them now.

[TrapGame]

Our talent on the offensive side of the ball that he inherited was also fool's gold. Don't let what the defense had cloud your thinking.

LOL! Yeah, okay.

[TrapGame]

No. Rutgers was the only one and that was mostly just the usual Rebel controlled outlets. They went quiet because we are doing their work for them now.

Joe's doing the work all by himself. Good grief.

[Really Clark?]

Our talent on the offensive side of the ball that he inherited was also fool's gold. Don't let what the defense had cloud your thinking.

If our offense just stayed pat from 2017, we win 10 games. We averaged 26.3 points per game in conference in 2017 and returned a vast majority of our scoring and knew Hill was ready to run and add to our offense. In fact 26 points in every conference last year gives us an 11-1 regular season record with only losing to Kentucky as they scored 28.

[Commercecomet24]

Do we have any actionable intel that is the case? Where would he go? Rutgers is done and out of the question. Any other outlets implying he is being looked at for other jobs? I'm just looking for some hope here but I'm highly concerned Joe leaving on his own is just a pipe dream at this point.

There's a number of folks with big checkbooks that completely fell off the fence after the ut debacle and the snowball has only gotten larger with the other crap shows he's produced since then. The embarrassing way we've played this year has pissed off a lot of people. Even winning the Egg may not save him. It's a waiting game at this point.

[Really Clark?]

No. Rutgers was the only one and that was mostly just the usual Rebel controlled outlets. They went quiet because we are doing their work for them now.

Well it’s been pretty much stuck on Schiano for a while now for Rutgers but the New Jersey reporting was truthful with Moorehead and have absolutely no connection to UM. That’s just not true. He was a candidate by the AD but the UT game hurt his position as far as Rutgers was concerned. The board has wanted Schiano the whole time so there has been a bit of a power struggle. They still are awaiting the approval for all of Schaino’s demands to be met but should happen.

[Commercecomet24]

Well it’s been pretty much stuck on Schiano for a while now for Rutgers but the New Jersey reporting was truthful with Moorehead and have absolutely no connection to UM. That’s just not true. He was a candidate by the AD but the UT game hurt his position as far as Rutgers was concerned. The board has wanted Schiano the whole time so there has been a bit of a power struggle. They still are awaiting the approval for all of Schaino’s demands to be met but should happen.

Yep, This.

[Pipedream]

A lot to comb through in this thread. First off, there was hardly any sort of consensus that Mullen was coaching for his job in the 13 Egg Bowl. There was some disappointment, but it was a vast minority that even mentioned him being fired if we lost that game. So to say that the chatter was THIS loud for him to be coaching for his job in 13 is some reach and revisionist history. Secondly, the 2018 offense looking backwards had at least 3 NFL OL, maybe more, a future all-SEC and pro RB (Hill), two other 1000 yard rushers (Aeris and Fitz). WR talent was lacking, but anyone with any sense would reasonably expect an offense with that sort of talent makeup to be able to score more than 7, 6, 3 and 0 in 4 out of 5 losses. Now, on to the Egg Bowl dilemma. If it is truly win or go home for JM, I think a fan that truly cares about the LONG TERM health of the program can rationalize hoping to lose. I get that. Problem is, no one really knows if that is the case at hand. I am glad to see the rhetoric is shifting towards it being a win or go home game. That's a positive sign. I mean are we going to take this football thing seriously or just drop back into the shadows? Because if we are going to be serious about it, losing to this OM team at home is a fireable offense.

[Gutter Cobreh]

LOL... Bo has set up shop in Shutgun's head and is living there rent free!!!

Bounds is throwing out speculative, theoretical benchmarks regarding Joe's employment and we have people (I won't call them fans) who immediately jump on that and now are publicly stating they will root for Ole Miss against us.

You folks have lost your damn minds. I don't give a shit if we have Tudorgate II in the next week and we can only dress out 11 guys who have to play both sides of the ball. There is not one single thing that would cause me to root for the Rebels to beat us. The ****ers intentionally broke our QB's ankle two years ago for God's sake!!!

[Dawg2003]

I'd never root for us to lose the Egg Bowl. The chances that we get someone as successful as Mullen aren't great.

[Captain Falcon]

Let’s not be ridiculous here. You can be super skeptical of Joe and still want us to win the Egg Bowl. Those two things can exist simultaneously, unlike what some would lead you to believe.

Joe has issues, and I personally think he will eventually be fired. But I’m not so jaded to the point that I think it’s impossible that he could ever do a good job here. An Egg Bowl loss would probably be the nail in the coffin for me, but at 6-6 with an Egg Bowl win I feel like is not just this inexcusably bad season. It’s not what I would call good, and there will still be pressure on him next year, but I think it’s only fair to root for him to win out this year and prove us wrong next year. If it doesn’t work out, we will move on. But I am not convinced we have reached the point of no return yet. An Egg Bowl loss would probably do it, but I’m not going actively root for that to happen.

[Really Clark?]

A lot to comb through in this thread. First off, there was hardly any sort of consensus that Mullen was coaching for his job in the 13 Egg Bowl. There was some disappointment, but it was a vast minority that even mentioned him being fired if we lost that game. So to say that the chatter was THIS loud for him to be coaching for his job in 13 is some reach and revisionist history. Secondly, the 2018 offense looking backwards had at least 3 NFL OL, maybe more, a future all-SEC and pro RB (Hill), two other 1000 yard rushers (Aeris and Fitz). WR talent was lacking, but anyone with any sense would reasonably expect an offense with that sort of talent makeup to be able to score more than 7, 6, 3 and 0 in 4 out of 5 losses. Now, on to the Egg Bowl dilemma. If it is truly win or go home for JM, I think a fan that truly cares about the LONG TERM health of the program can rationalize hoping to lose. I get that. Problem is, no one really knows if that is the case at hand. I am glad to see the rhetoric is shifting towards it being a win or go home game. That's a positive sign. I mean are we going to take this football thing seriously or just drop back into the shadows? Because if we are going to be serious about it, losing to this OM team at home is a fireable offense.

You forgot we also returned another 1,000 yard back in Aeris, and that was nearly a fireable offense in his misuse or should I say un-use last season. We legitimately had the potential for 3 1,000 yard rushers last season and man staying on that would have opened up the pass game so more for us throughout the year. But it’s done now