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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLostDawg View Post
    I believe that he's trying to say is we need a CEO coach with good coordinators. The thing with that is we don't pay our coaches enough to keep top assistants
    We have not lost a single coach in any sport due to money since the SEC money explosion. We lose coaches because they would rather go to a blue blood to advance their careers. We have a small assistant coaching salary pool because the ones we have don’t deserve to be paid more than they are currently being paid. When our coaches win big we pay them. Dan Mullen didn’t leave for money. Neither did Huff. Neither did David Turner. Neither did Baker. They may be making more than they were here but it is not because we did not offer them a similar salary to stay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    This fascination with Hud is beyond stupid. Guy is a bat shit crazy ass hat. Some of the crazy bullshit he did at ULL was borderline insanity and quite frankly, it was creepy as hell.
    Please send out some crazy stuff Hud did as I never heard of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    We have not lost a single coach in any sport due to money since the SEC money explosion. We lose coaches because they would rather go to a blue blood to advance their careers. We have a small assistant coaching salary pool because the ones we have don’t deserve to be paid more than they are currently being paid. When our coaches win big we pay them. Dan Mullen didn’t leave for money. Neither did Huff. Neither did David Turner. Neither did Baker. They may be making more than they were here but it is not because we did not offer them a similar salary to stay.
    And we sure seemed to be able to pay Grantham a competitive salary to get him to come here - and that was when we were already paying Dan a much higher salary then what Moorhead gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    So, we hire him. Where will the NCAA rent office space in Starkville? I want to know so I can buy it first to rent to them. He will never be the head coach at MSU.
    This is a fairly uninformed post. Do you know much about David Sanders? I know the guy he's likable but he's nuclear.

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    I'm not a huge Hud guy but if it is true about him and Johnson coming up with the Auburn game plan in '18 some of y'all may be off on your criticism. That right there showed me he knows more than Moorhead about being a head coach.

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    let's see what most are looking for
    1. a Coach who runs a run first spread offense
    2. a Coach who has been a HC and won at a School where losing was common
    3. a Coach who is a proven recruiter.
    4. a Coach that understands SEC Culture and the South (maybe with a MSU connection)
    5. A coach that wants to Coach at MSU.

    Am I missing anything?

    Hud checks all the boxes--just saying.

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    Austin Peay Governors are 7-3 and in first place in the OVC right now with games left against Murray St. and Eastern Ill. Could very well finish in first place in the OVC and make the playoffs in year 1 with a new staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    Austin Peay Governors are 7-3 and in first place in the OVC right now with games left against Murray St. and Eastern Ill. Could very well finish in first place in the OVC and make the playoffs in year 1 with a new staff.
    If nothing else, Hud is a damn good fall back plan if we did make a move and didn't get any interest. He is a lot better than settling for Luke like UM did. I am not sure if I would take him over Napier but I think at worst that Hud would get us to bowl games. I am not sure if he could compete with the big boys but at least keep us middle of the pack where we are right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    Austin Peay Governors are 7-3 and in first place in the OVC right now with games left against Murray St. and Eastern Ill. Could very well finish in first place in the OVC and make the playoffs in year 1 with a new staff.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    If nothing else, Hud is a damn good fall back plan if we did make a move and didn't get any interest. He is a lot better than settling for Luke like UM did. I am not sure if I would take him over Napier but I think at worst that Hud would get us to bowl games. I am not sure if he could compete with the big boys but at least keep us middle of the pack where we are right now.
    Interesting note looking at the Austin Peay staff - lots of people with MSU ties (and a number he pulled straight from the staff last year). Bumphis played here; Lovings (DL/AHC) was QC/GA at MSU from 07-10; Zetts (WR) was OQC in '18; Powell (DC) was a GA in '18; Morrissey (OL) was OLQC in '18; Frazier (Dir. of Football Ops) is a '14 grad; Cole (on-campus recruiting coordinator) was a GA and is a '19 grad; Bland (Dir of Player Personnel) is a grad.
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    Time to put Brad Peterson as qb coach or play calling. What he did offensively.... IMMEDIATELY .....at several losing schools early in his early HS career is nothing short of remarkable. Players like and respond to him.....just don’t understand why he isn’t on the field or in press box.

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    Not from the State but Les Miles. His people has reached out to us. He wants back in SEC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs View Post
    Not from the State but Les Miles. His people has reached out to us. He wants back in SEC.
    There is no doubt that a guy who could not field a competent offense at a school that shits out 5 star players and is currently 3-6 at his current school is reaching out to everyone for a better coaching job. If we hire him our entire athletic department should be fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs View Post
    Not from the State but Les Miles. His people has reached out to us. He wants back in SEC.
    When?

    I'm still thinking there is a quiet head coaching transition going on behind the scenes. I think there's a good chance Joe is moving on at the end of the season. We are just trying to be discreet and professional about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    When?

    I'm still thinking there is a quiet head coaching transition going on behind the scenes. I think there's a good chance Joe is moving on at the end of the season. We are just trying to be discreet and professional about it.
    I’m not trying to strike up an argument, I’m legitimately just asking because I’m curious, what makes you think that? I just don’t see it and nothing really points to it, just my opinion. Just curious what you’re seeing, hearing, or whatever that makes you think something is going on behind the scenes? I just think barring an absolute massacre on EB night, which ain’t gonna happen, that he’s 100% back next year. But he’d better win 8 games next year. Can’t underachieve 3 years in a row.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19 View Post
    I’m not trying to strike up an argument, I’m legitimately just asking because I’m curious, what makes you think that? I just don’t see it and nothing really points to it, just my opinion. Just curious what you’re seeing, hearing, or whatever that makes you think something is going on behind the scenes? I just think barring an absolute massacre on EB night, which ain’t gonna happen, that he’s 100% back next year. But he’d better win 8 games next year. Can’t underachieve 3 years in a row.
    Just some things that have been said over the last month. I just get the feeling Joe wasn't expecting the SEC to be this tough. He admitted over the summer that he underestimated SEC defenses' speed and athleticism. He said it was a real eye opener. to And there are not only the Rutgers rumor - which is strangely still open - but he has been mentioned for possible openings at UMass, Boston College and Illinois. Probably just a wishful thinking sort of gut feeling. Odds are he's still here next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Just some things that have been said over the last month. I just get the feeling Joe wasn't expecting the SEC to be this tough. He admitted over the summer that he underestimated SEC defenses' speed and athleticism. He said it was a real eye opener. to And there are not only the Rutgers rumor - which is strangely still open - but he has been mentioned for possible openings at UMass, Boston College and Illinois. Probably just a wishful thinking sort of gut feeling. Odds are he's still here next year.
    I think you are right FWIW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19 View Post
    I’m not trying to strike up an argument, I’m legitimately just asking because I’m curious, what makes you think that? I just don’t see it and nothing really points to it, just my opinion. Just curious what you’re seeing, hearing, or whatever that makes you think something is going on behind the scenes? I just think barring an absolute massacre on EB night, which ain’t gonna happen, that he’s 100% back next year. But he’d better win 8 games next year. Can’t underachieve 3 years in a row.
    Well it is interesting that there have been rumors about Joe leaving for somewhere else- primarily Rutgers.

    And it’s also interesting that coaches have been rumored to be reaching out to our people even though we don’t have an opening. That’s pretty unusual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I think you are right FWIW.
    You also think something is going on behind the scenes? Same reasons at Trap said or something else making you think that? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Well it is interesting that there have been rumors about Joe leaving for somewhere else- primarily Rutgers.

    And it’s also interesting that coaches have been rumored to be reaching out to our people even though we don’t have an opening. That’s pretty unusual.
    Yep. There was a serious rumor that Mike Norvell is really interested in the State job. Supposedly it was a mutual interest too. I'm just thinking Joe wants to finish 6-6 not to be able to stay but to look good to another program that would hire him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Just some things that have been said over the last month. I just get the feeling Joe wasn't expecting the SEC to be this tough. He admitted over the summer that he underestimated SEC defenses' speed and athleticism. He said it was a real eye opener. to And there are not only the Rutgers rumor - which is strangely still open - but he has been mentioned for possible openings at UMass, Boston College and Illinois. Probably just a wishful thinking sort of gut feeling. Odds are he's still here next year.
    One thing you have to take into consideration, coaches that get to that level of success typically don't give up easy. Joe is probably either going to think that we will be successful without injuries or he should be looking on how to adapt to SEC defenses.

    At the end of the day, you will have to go through a SEC level defense if you have a goal of winning a National Title. It would say a lot if he really just gave up and went to an easier league. Coach O has shown you can go back to a lower league and better prepare yourself. It might be the best thing for Moorhead but will his ego allow it?

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