We ran the ball on 1st down 14 out of 15 of our possessions vs KSU

[timotheus]

good point worthy of discussion

[dantheman4248]

OP is a liar and should be ashamed.

1st & 10 at MSST 8
(10:10 - 4th) Kylin Hill run for 6 yds to the MisSt 14

2nd & 4 at MSST 14
(9:49 - 4th) Kylin Hill run for 2 yds to the MisSt 16

3rd & 2 at MSST 16
(9:02 - 4th) Garrett Shrader pass incomplete

4th & 2 at MSST 16
(8:55 - 4th) Tucker Day punt for 37 yds, fair catch by Phillip Brooks at the KanSt 47

The rest of y'all should be ashamed for not having Sean McVay like memory and knowing how false of a statement this was. Especially when the drive in question was so pivotal that we didn't run it on 3rd down but instead had a pass thrown behind a receiver and dropped.

[dantheman4248]

This "fact" OP posted is just so horribly wrong.

1st & 10 at KSU 45
(9:53 - 2nd) Kylin Hill run for 5 yds to the KanSt 40

1st & 10 at KSU 18
(8:34 - 2nd) Kylin Hill run for 3 yds to the KanSt 15

1st & Goal at KSU 4
(6:41 - 2nd) Kylin Hill run for 3 yds to the KanSt 1

Just adding them as I find them

1st & 10 at MSST 38
(0:31 - 2nd) Tommy Stevens run for 4 yds to the KanSt 38 for a 1ST down KANSAS ST Penalty, Personal Foul (15 Yards) to the KanSt 47 for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at 50
(9:37 - 3rd) Kylin Hill run for 11 yds to the KanSt 39 for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at KSU 39
(9:01 - 3rd) Kylin Hill run for 9 yds to the KanSt 30

1st & Goal at KSU 5
(4:47 - 3rd) Garrett Shrader run for 5 yds for a TD, (Jace Christmann KICK)

1st & 10 at KSU 43
(1:26 - 3rd) Kylin Hill run for 10 yds to the KanSt 33 for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at MSST 25
(5:20 - 4th) Garrett Shrader run for 12 yds to the MisSt 37 for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at KSU 45
(3:59 - 4th) Kylin Hill run for 16 yds to the KanSt 29 for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at MSST 20
(0:23 - 4th) Garrett Shrader run for 11 yds to the MisSt 31 for a 1ST down

1st & 10 at MSST 31
(0:07 - 4th) Garrett Shrader run for 4 yds to the MisSt 40 Kylin Hill

[timotheus]

glad to see why the O is sputtering so. bet these SEC DT will take it easy on us

[dantheman4248]

And for those wanting to say OP meant we had a possession where a first down run went form 2 or less yards... that happened on only 10 out of our 15 possessions.

The fact that you have to make up stats to hate on the coach... there's plenty of material that members of this board will let you know about. Making up something is pathetic.

ETA: Posting a stat like this screams “I’m a box score fan” and shows everyone to not take your football related opinions seriously because who knows if you even watched the game.

[Captain Falcon]

I’m not opposed to some variety in the running game, but we have the SEC’s leading rusher who is averaging almost 7 yards per carry and leads the nation in runs of 10 yards or more. We also had our backup QB rush for almost 100 yards in a half on over 8 yards a carry.

Like I said, I’d be fine with us mixing it up some more, but it’s not like our running game hasn’t been working.

[Really Clark?]

And for those wanting to say OP meant we had a possession where a first down run went form 2 or less yards... that happened on only 10 out of our 15 possessions.

The fact that you have to make up stats to hate on the coach... there's plenty of material that members of this board will let you know about. Making up something is pathetic.

ETA: Posting a stat like this screams “I’m a box score fan” and shows everyone to not take your football related opinions seriously because who knows if you even watched the game.

I hear ya. He missed some of those opening drive possessions. But saying “only” for a 67% fail is also kind of planting a skewed thought in a readers mind as well.

[dantheman4248]

I hear ya. He missed some of those opening drive possessions. But saying “only” for a 67% fail is also kind of planting a skewed thought in a readers mind as well.

Well it’s not really a fail if 3 out of those 10 were scoring drives. 30% of drives we had a 1st down run of 2 or less yards at any point in the possession we scored on. 20% of drives we didn’t have a run like that we scored on.

[Really Clark?]

Well it’s not really a fail if 3 out of those 10 were scoring drives. 30% of drives we had a 1st down run of 2 or less yards at any point in the possession we scored on. 20% of drives we didn’t have a run like that we scored on.

He was only talking about the opening play of a drive. Regardless of the outcome of the entire possession, 67% of the time it was not a positive opening play.

[Lord McBuckethead]

And we rushed for 2 yards or less on all 14 1st down rushes! We faced 2nd and 8 or longer a whopping 14 times last Saturday. Not good. The O Line must get much better push, but when the D knows what is coming it is much easier to defend.

Way too predictable! Mix in a few passes on 1st down, please Joe.

Thats a good point. It did feel like we were falling into a very predictable scheme.

[dantheman4248]

He was only talking about the opening play of a drive. Regardless of the outcome of the entire possession, 67% of the time it was not a positive opening play.

Then that makes its 9/15 we opened a drive with a run of 2 or less. 1 incompletion, 1 12 yard completion, 4 runs of 4 or more yards.

The point is that the OP posted blatantly false statistics. I have a problem with that. Clear spreading of misinformation is not good.

ETA: It’s damning showing how many people have blindly accepted this false statistic. Shocking some people I would trust to watch with a closer eye than to believe something this ludicrous.

[Gutter Cobreh]

Then that makes its 9/15 we opened a drive with a run of 2 or less. 1 incompletion, 1 12 yard completion, 4 runs of 4 or more yards.

The point is that the OP posted blatantly false statistics. I have a problem with that. Clear spreading of misinformation is not good.

ETA: It’s damning showing how many people have blindly accepted this false statistic. Shocking some people I would trust to watch with a closer eye than to believe something this ludicrous.

What's going to piss you off even more is when this is thrown out again in other threads, even weeks down the road. Been here too long to see misinformation read and then regurgitated as gospel.

[dantheman4248]

What's going to piss you off even more is when this is thrown out again in other threads, even weeks down the road. Been here too long to see misinformation read and then regurgitated as gospel.

Anyone who spits out this statement as fact tells me everything I need to know about that person's opinion of football: that they got it from the message board.

Wish I could tag users like on reddit to keep up with the idiots that repeat this ad nauseam. You're definitely right that this isn't the last of the statistic we've seen.

Sad part is, once I looked at the game, I'm irked again that we didn't run the ball more down the end of the game.

[timotheus]

I sit in a seat and do my own evaluating and then listen to the coaches explanation. I do not need any thought police to act critical of what an actual flawed process is. I do hope that Kentucky sux and that it was a fluke that they almost beat florida. We are a messy work in progress on offense and I think we took a pretty good hit with a couple of the new coaches on D.

[Goldendawg]

And we rushed for 2 yards or less on all 14 1st down rushes! We faced 2nd and 8 or longer a whopping 14 times last Saturday. Not good. The O Line must get much better push, but when the D knows what is coming it is much easier to defend.

Way too predictable! Mix in a few passes on 1st down, please Joe.

Explosive play calling.**

[RezDog7]

Fitz making the wrong reads

Last year you wanted to run the ball. This year you want to throw the ball. You bitch like a woman.

[Todd4State]

Last year you wanted to run the ball. This year you want to throw the ball. You bitch like a woman.

Even worse than a woman. He tries to twist everything to try to fit his narrative.

[RezDog7]

After years of watching Lee, Relf, Russell, Prescott, Fitz up the middle on every third and whatever, you would think we'd appreciate some different players getting the ball. There was nothing more predictable than what Mullen was running. My 9 yo daughter knew Dak and Fitz were going run the ball.

[msu15]

Fitz making the wrong reads

Getting so old

[dantheman4248]

The fact that A. so many still believe this incorrect statistic and B. neglect to read any of the thread that shows it being disproven is just sad.