Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 92

Thread: Some Thoughts On Our QB Situation

  1. #1
    Senior Member ShotgunDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    37,277
    vCash
    3700

    Some Thoughts On Our QB Situation

    Just listening to Bo Bounds & it's like these media guys don't think.

    "Gonna be a competition"; "Boff Stefens & Key will pl-aaaay"

    Here is what's going happen:

    - Tommy Stevens is going to start at QB for Mississippi State. Of course, don't argue with it.

    - KT is going to be red shirted, but, since red shirts can play in 4 games, those 4 games will be used when he is needed as a "fireman" Meaning, if it's a blow out, he ain't playing. If we are at Auburn and the score is 21-17 in the 4th quarter & Stevens rolls his ankle, KT will play.

    - The biggest debate with our QB situation is who gets the blowout snaps. Does Moorhead punt on Mayden & give those snaps to Shrader or does Moorhead believe enough in Mayden to give him snaps? With Schrader also red shirting, IMO it would behoove Moorhead to save Shrader's action for when he can play an entire quarter or so. No sense in wasting one of his games to kneel the ball or play one series.

    Here is a guess of how the QB situation will shake out per game: In this I've got 7 possible games that KT could play in, but we can only use him in 4 of those.

    This is not rocket science.

    Last edited by ShotgunDawg; 07-26-2019 at 08:13 AM.
    CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG

    Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More

  2. #2
    Senior Member msstate7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    74,799
    vCash
    10439
    Why RS key? If he isn't good enough to play this year, he likely never will be. We will have 4 scholarship QBs in 2020 if no one leaves. No reason to RS key unless it's help him save a year of eligibility to transfer out after the season

  3. #3
    Senior Member Ari Gold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    West coast
    Posts
    4,734
    vCash
    3100
    Bo has no idea about what is going on at the QB position or anything for that matter when it comes to MSU football
    He is a talking head..

  4. #4
    Senior Member ShotgunDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    37,277
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Why RS key? If he isn't good enough to play this year, he likely never will be. We will have 4 scholarship QBs in 2020 if no one leaves. No reason to RS key unless it's help him save a year of eligibility to transfer out after the season
    The most important word in your post is "Likely" meaning that it isn't certain.

    It would be absolutely foolish for Moorhead to play KT in more than 4 games unless the season dictated it. Perhaps KT isn't good enough, but you don't know if Mayden & Shrader are good enough either. Meaning it wouldn't make any sense to needlessly waste KT's eligibility.

    Additionally, by redshirting him, you're doing KT right. He keeps two years to play &, if he doesn't win the QB job next Spring, he's got 2 years to transfer to ULL or Tulane, both of which schools he'd likely get immediate eligibility
    CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG

    Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More

  5. #5
    Senior Member msstate7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    74,799
    vCash
    10439
    Well I think key has some serious running ability, so I'd use it this year even if Stevens is the primary qb. Sorta like how Joe used Stevens with McSorley

  6. #6
    Senior Member Maroonthirteen's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    6,058
    vCash
    4388
    Bounds is the only sports talk in Mississippi that talks about State and sec sports. His show is certainly the most knowledgeable of all shows in the southeast regarding MSU athletics. I appreciate his show.

  7. #7
    Archimedes
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    1,431
    vCash
    3200
    Key is suspended the first two games of the season anyways.

  8. #8
    Bennie Brown Know-It-All
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    4,084
    vCash
    3138
    Key should have been redshirted last year. Playing him in more than 4 games was a huge mistake IMO. That's why I don't expect him to redshirt this year. Stevens will be the quarterback but I feel like KT will play in packages and not redshirt. I agree that he should do exactly what you have laid out, but I don't feel like that is what is going to happen.

  9. #9
    Senior Member ShotgunDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    37,277
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Well I think key has some serious running ability, so I'd use it this year even if Stevens is the primary qb. Sorta like how Joe used Stevens with McSorley
    Here is Stevens playing WIDE RECEIVER FOR PENN ST. Also a few days ago, Moorhead said that he thought KT & Stevens had similar running ability

    CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG

    Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More

  10. #10
    Senior Member ShotgunDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    37,277
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    Bounds is the only sports talk in Mississippi that talks about State and sec sports. His show is certainly the most knowledgeable of all shows in the southeast regarding MSU athletics. I appreciate his show.
    I like the show as well, but sometimes he just sounds educated on some issues.
    CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG

    Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More

  11. #11
    Senior Member ShotgunDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Posts
    37,277
    vCash
    3700
    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    Key should have been redshirted last year. Playing him in more than 4 games was a huge mistake IMO. That's why I don't expect him to redshirt this year. Stevens will be the quarterback but I feel like KT will play in packages and not redshirt. I agree that he should do exactly what you have laid out, but I don't feel like that is what is going to happen.
    I disagree. I think it would be extremely easy to RS KT this year. IMO, if they don't redshirt him, it means they don't believe in him
    CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG

    Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More

  12. #12
    Bennie Brown Know-It-All
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    4,084
    vCash
    3138
    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I disagree. I think it would be extremely easy to RS KT this year. IMO, if they don't redshirt him, it means they don't believe in him
    Read my post again. I didn't say it would not be easy. I didn't say we should not do it. I said we probably won't do it. If we were going to do it we would have done it last year. it would have been just as easy to do it then.

  13. #13
    Senior Member BrunswickDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Home of Slay, GA
    Posts
    12,308
    vCash
    1746501
    People are also assuming that KT is the #2. From what I saw in the spring, if KT hasn't improved Mayden could be fighting him for that spot.
    "After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
    - Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18

  14. #14
    Senior Member TrapGame's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    13,712
    vCash
    4975
    Tommy Stevens is the only QB that can make the reads and push a ball down the field. I could tell that neither Bo or the douche nozzle from SDS have any credible sources at MSU.

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Gulfport,MS
    Posts
    1,143
    vCash
    1002510
    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Tommy Stevens is the only QB that can make the reads and push a ball down the field. I could tell that neither Bo or the douche nozzle from SDS have any credible sources at MSU.
    100% and for good reason they have been shit talking Moorhead since the day he was hired. I am surprised he even went on the show the few times he did. He is pandering too much to SEC country and forgetting his base by constantly downing the teams in the state. OM included when he started the offseason talk with have we ever had two more boring coaches in MS? I had to tune him out until actual gameplay starts. He must have forgotten the Croom and O years where we were battling for that elusive fourth win in the Egg Bowl.

  16. #16
    Senior Member msstate7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    74,799
    vCash
    10439
    Quote Originally Posted by Scared_Hitless View Post
    100% and for good reason they have been shit talking Moorhead since the day he was hired. I am surprised he even went on the show the few times he did. He is pandering too much to SEC country and forgetting his base by constantly downing the teams in the state. OM included when he started the offseason talk with have we ever had two more boring coaches in MS? I had to tune him out until actual gameplay starts. He must have forgotten the Croom and O years where we were battling for that elusive fourth win in the Egg Bowl.
    Well to be fair, Ed O is hardly boring

  17. #17
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Gulfport,MS
    Posts
    1,143
    vCash
    1002510
    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Well to be fair, Ed O is hardly boring
    I mean your not wrong. He still trashes Coach O though daily.

  18. #18
    Senior Member TrapGame's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    13,712
    vCash
    4975
    Quote Originally Posted by Scared_Hitless View Post
    100% and for good reason they have been shit talking Moorhead since the day he was hired. I am surprised he even went on the show the few times he did. He is pandering too much to SEC country and forgetting his base by constantly downing the teams in the state. OM included when he started the offseason talk with have we ever had two more boring coaches in MS? I had to tune him out until actual gameplay starts. He must have forgotten the Croom and O years where we were battling for that elusive fourth win in the Egg Bowl.
    Bo comes off as a condescending jerk on the radio. He's probably a nice guy in person but his radio persona takes over on the air. His takes on MSU and OM this year have been downright laughable.

  19. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    10,494
    vCash
    1003100
    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    People are also assuming that KT is the #2. From what I saw in the spring, if KT hasn't improved Mayden could be fighting him for that spot.
    Mayden was the best passer in the spring in my eyes as well. I went to one practice and watched the game on record. Im not sure Shrader will ever get a real shot. Him and KT are the most likely to transfer. I just dont think either throws it that well. Shrader had a lot of growing up to do as well.

    KT has great intangibles and is a Dawg so he will stay till the end of the season but if I had to put money on it right now I would say he transfers in January and we have a real ''QB battle'' next year between Mayden, Shrader and Rogers. Rogers is planning on graduating early to make spring ball as well
    Last edited by BuckyIsAB****; 07-26-2019 at 10:31 AM.

  20. #20
    Senior Member yjnkdawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    5,049
    vCash
    3287
    Mayden actually fits a JoeMo type offense better than he does a Dan Mullen one. Unless something happens unusual (snakebit , injuries, etc.) at the quarterback position then I don't see Shrader taking any snaps that Stevens doesn't get this year. Then who would get the most or all of snaps that Stevens didn't get could depend upon the possible redshiirt for KT and who knows the offense better and who comes through as the best passer (I agree with Bucky's thinking on this).
    Last edited by yjnkdawg; 07-26-2019 at 10:47 AM.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Disclaimer: Elitedawgs is a privately owned and operated forum that is managed by alumni of Mississippi State University. This website is in no way affiliated with the Mississippi State University, The Southeastern Conference (SEC) or the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). The views and opinions expressed herein are strictly those of the post author and may not reflect the views of other members of this forum or elitedawgs.com. The interactive nature of the elitedawgs.com forums makes it impossible for elitedawgs.com to assume responsibility for any of the content posted at this site. Ideas, thoughts, suggestion, comments, opinions, advice and observations made by participants at elitedawgs.com are not endorsed by elitedawgs.com
Elitedawgs: A Mississippi State Fan Forum, Mississippi State Football, Mississippi State Basketball, Mississippi State Baseball, Mississippi State Athletics. Mississippi State message board.