Favorite to land Tommy Stevens

[Coach007]

Sorry but I disagree that McSorley is better than Fitzgerald

That's your thing. "I disagree"

[BuckyIsAB****]

Or Moorhead just doesn't like KT. Wouldn't be the first coach to not play a player cause they don't like them. Mullen did it all the time. Remember the thread started by Swedenburg on this very thing.

You are reaching hard here with no evidence. Seen it in person and its been reported by many that have that Mayden is at least as good of a passer as KT right now. I love KT. Im pulling for him but Stevens is probably better and he will start if he comes here. KT has done everything right and has done nothing but win, but the best player has to play. If that's KT then great, but there's a reason Moorhead is taking Stevens and its not bc he doesnt like KT.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Not to mention that we do have the room, anybody that is against taking Stevens is either A. Moorhead hater or B. Willfully ignorant

[Relardo Sidney]

You specifically said KT?s Freshman and Soph YEARS are comparable to Dak?s. Not his first 3 starts (which he hasn?t even had) vs Dak?s first 3 starts. That is the definition of changing the criteria after trying and failing to make a point.

Doesn?t matter that you don?t think McSorley wasn?t any better than Fitz, experts, early Heisman pundits, Vegas, the draft, they all disagree with you

I stand by what I said. Dak as a sophomore wasn't Dak we know today. Give KT as many snaps as Dak got and the numbers wouldn't be far off and statistically KT would actually be on pace to shatter Dak's #'s. Buttttttttt cOmpLeTion % tho derrrr!

[maroonmania]

If KT was as good as you think he is Joe would have put him in after Florida. Fitz being a 5th yr senior be damned.

The fact that Moorhead wouldn't even give KT one series at LSU, one of the worst QB'd games I've ever seen at MSU, tells me a lot about the confidence Moorhead has in KT. That being said, I don't know enough about Stevens to know if he would be better than KT or not but I'm trusting that JoMo does.

[Relardo Sidney]

You are reaching hard here with no evidence. Seen it in person and its been reported by many that have that Mayden is at least as good of a passer as KT right now. I love KT. Im pulling for him but Stevens is probably better and he will start if he comes here. KT has done everything right and has done nothing but win, but the best player has to play. If that's KT then great, but there's a reason Moorhead is taking Stevens and its not bc he doesnt like KT.

Not to mention that we do have the room, anybody that is against taking Stevens is either A. Moorhead hater or B. Willfully ignorant

Love how you totally disregard KT's running ability. How many rushing TDs he got again? Yards? Etc... and no I don't want Stevens cause it'll capsize our entire built up Qb depth once everyone else bolts and were left holding our dicks 6 months from now.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Love how you totally disregard KT's running ability. How many rushing TDs he got again? Yards? Etc... and no I don't want Stevens cause it'll capsize our entire built up Qb depth once everyone else bolts and were left holding our dicks 6 months from now.

The only one that would possibly bolt is KT and it would be understandable. Where did I say KT couldnt run the ball? He can run it, but he is struggling to throw it. How many times have we been down the road of not being able to throw the football at all? Keeping the status quo will result in that happening again in 2019.

Stevens is a 1 year player and will bridge the gap for Will Rogers or Shrader. My money is on Rogers.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Sorry but I disagree that McSorley is better than Fitzgerald but even if he is it's not like he's miles better so the comparison between Stevens situation and KT's is actually quite similar. How do you not see that? And I'm not changing the criteria at all you are by comparing an entire season vs 3 games. That's not a comparison. That's like comparing Rooker's entire last season to Rowdey's first 12 games of this season.

How the hell can you say that McSorley and Fitz are in the same ballpark? McSorley is a FAR better QB. And that?s nothing against Nick. I will go to bat for Nick any day of the week because he put it on the line every time he put on that jersey, but with Trace McSorley as QB last year we are an 11 win team

[Todd4State]

Love how you totally disregard KT's running ability. How many rushing TDs he got again? Yards? Etc... and no I don't want Stevens cause it'll capsize our entire built up Qb depth once everyone else bolts and were left holding our dicks 6 months from now.

And this is based on....

IF that did happen we would go out and get either/or a JUCO or another transfer QB. And it won't happen because they're not all going to transfer because we get a guy that is only going to be here one year.

[BuckyIsAB****]

How the hell can you say that McSorley and Fitz are in the same ballpark? McSorley is a FAR better QB. And that?s nothing against Nick. I will go to bat for Nick any day of the week because he put it on the line every time he put on that jersey, but with Trace McSorley as QB last year we are an 11 win team

McSorely is vastly better than Fitzgerald at QB. He's not as tough and he's not as good of an athlete, but at running an offense he is miles ahead. I love Fitz but I wouldve traded Fitz last year for McSorely 10 out of 10 times

[Quaoarsking]

Dak completed 62% as a redshirt freshman. KT is behind where Dak was after 2.5 years here. That doesn't necessarily mean he can't get there, but to say he's on pace is silly, especially when KT's lesser stats came against Sirmon and FCS.

[NWADAWG]

Well Moorhead apparently isn't. I want joe to get his guy bc I want offensive improvement and no excuses

Maybe I'm looking at this wrong but I'm glad that a player that has seen JoMo's system wants to follow him to state. Maybe it's the easy way out but I hope it's because he's seen what JoMo is capable of.

[Really Clark?]

I stand by what I said. Dak as a sophomore wasn't Dak we know today. Give KT as many snaps as Dak got and the numbers wouldn't be far off and statistically KT would actually be on pace to shatter Dak's #'s. Buttttttttt cOmpLeTion % tho derrrr!

No he wouldn’t have had the same numbers passing. You disregard completion percentage but that’s 10 percentage points difference. You can’t give away that many passes and equal the same production as Dak in 2013.

[Really Clark?]

You're making excuses. The dude has not shown he can pass or be a starter. He had a chance to beat out McSorely and couldn't. This spring he couldn't even beat out the current Qb after McSorely graduated hence the reason he's transferring. What are you looking at?

McSorley did beat him out, barely. And he has waited for his turn. Where are you getting the other QB was named the starter this season? Stevens was injured and it was still an open competition. Penn St believed he would be the starter this fall but there are issues with how all of that was handled, especially his injury.

[Relardo Sidney]

Lol you know who has a great completion %? Sam Bradford. When did that guy win anything in the NFL? Completion % ain't the end all be all. KT threw away 6-8 passes vs SFA. Like intentionally threw the ball out of bounds. That kills your completion % but it doesn't get you sacked and it doesn't get you picked. He also threw for like 360 yards but none of y'all ever mention that only "coMplTion peRcEnTage"

[Relardo Sidney]

The only one that would possibly bolt is KT and it would be understandable. Where did I say KT couldnt run the ball? He can run it, but he is struggling to throw it. How many times have we been down the road of not being able to throw the football at all? Keeping the status quo will result in that happening again in 2019.

Stevens is a 1 year player and will bridge the gap for Will Rogers or Shrader. My money is on Rogers.

I wouldn't bank on Stevens being some prolific passer. The risk isn't worth the reward here. He's only got one year left, he's not gonna be that much better throwing it than KT and he's at very best equal to KT running it. KT has two years left and you run the risk of chemistry issues within the locker room if you bring in Stevens and he expects to start immediately without earning it.

[Really Clark?]

Lol you know who has a great completion %? Sam Bradford. When did that guy win anything in the NFL? Completion % ain't the end all be all. KT threw away 6-8 passes vs SFA. Like intentionally threw the ball out of bounds. That kills your completion % but it doesn't get you sacked and it doesn't get you picked. He also threw for like 360 yards but none of y'all ever mention that only "coMplTion peRcEnTage"

No he didn’t. Watch every pass. Even some of his big completions that would have been picked or knocked down in the league. Oh and we play college ball. Bradford won a lot in college. Including the Heisman. Ridiculous comp.

[tcdog70]

If you truly believe in someone and fully invest in them they tend to rise to meet your expectations. Joe doesn't get this. KT has all the tools needed to win games in the SEC.

What? That is some high level mumbo jumbo. KT might have the tools but so far he hasn't put them together. Bring in Tommy and see if KT can beat Him out. KT couldn't out do Fitz.

[Jarius]

So are you going to go ahead and admit that you think you know more about our qb situation than Joe moorhead? Instead of calling me a genespage homer, Just tell the world that you are arrogant enough to see a player 3 times in 3 years against terrible competition, watch no practices in 2 years, and know that we should not be getting a transfer qb to take his spot. Come on. Tell us. You have a quarter of the information and run your mouth like you have any sort of clue. There is a difference in giving an opinion on our qb situation and stating things matter of factly like you are doing with no evidence to back anything up. This Stevens kid may suck. I have no clue. I do not pretend to have all of the answers when I do not have all of the info though.


And no, we would have won the Egg Bowl if we would have not had 5 turnovers. Blaming that on the defense is more ignorance. When you give a team 5 extra possessions, your defense is going to crack.

[Relardo Sidney]

What? That is some high level mumbo jumbo. KT might have the tools but so far he hasn't put them together. Bring in Tommy and see if KT can beat Him out. KT couldn't out do Fitz.

High level mumbo jumbo? Sorry you feel that way, you'd understand it when you have no choice but to understand it. Since when is a sophomore expected to beat out Fitzgerald (a top 5 all-time MSU QB)? Nobody was beating out legacy Fitz. Sophomore Dak woulda sat behind senior Fitz. Moorhead was always going to start Fitz no matter who was the backup. Remember him calling him and telling him to clear out space for the Heisman?