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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    I don't mind changing up things but Last Jedi just wasn't a good movie. Without the Star Wars name, it probably would have bombed. It seems like JJ Abrams actually understood what fans didn't like about it. Rian just got defensive and basically said that fans didn't like him changing things up even though the plot was the worst of any Star Wars movie. When the redeeming quality of the movie is it doesn't have Jar Jar then you know it is bad.
    Oh, I agree. The writing for TLJ was really really bad (who wrote it again?*), from the slow chase, the force-flying Leia, cheapening Snoke, the Rey's parents troll-job, the mutiny on the Bounty, and definitely the whole unnecessary excursion on the casino planet. It was really bad. I know she gets a lot of deserved ire, but who knows how Rose's character would've been had her dialogue not been so bad (again, who wrote that shit again?***). That scene where she kissed Finn was cringe worthy. My post about Jar Jar and the Porgs was just referencing the fact that there have been childish and cheesy creatures/characters in previous SW films as well (e.g., Droids in IV, Ewoks in VI).

    Your point about changing up things is true as well. I don't mind that Rian went and pulled a 360 with Luke's character (i.e., the hero deconstruction), because its really a bold, not to mention brave, move. It's not what I wanted, obviously, but I can respect his decision to do it....Hell, Mark Hamill has been on record saying he hated the direction of Luke in TLJ, but he still bought in to Rian's vision. It was everything else in toto that made the move suck.

    I really can't express into words how awesome it made me feel to the scene with puppet Yoda....the writing there was absolutely perfect. Yoda was still teaching Luke, showing him the way just like before. Not to mention, it was funny irreverent Yoda like we saw in Empire, not the CGI Yoda that only discussed trade embargo's and midichlorians we got during the prequels.

    All of that being said, TLJ is bad, but still isn't the worst (or even next to worst) Star Wars films; hell, just based on pure cinematic qualities, it's still better than any of the prequels, regardless of how we view it in regards to canon. And as I said in the first post, I'm relieved JJ is back at the helm. I really think he'll do a good job of healing the wreckage left by TLJ.
    Last edited by BeardoMSU; 04-22-2019 at 06:56 AM.

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