Game 1 v. Arkansas

[HoopsDawg]

I agree and I hope so. But it's yet another frustrating "we should have swept this team" series if that indeed happens. We probably could have swept USM, Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, and we'll see about Arkansas. We should have won the series against LSU as well. I know and understand that things happen in baseball but it always seems like some BS happens every weekend (except for Alabama) and it's always something different. We should be running away with the SEC right now.


And yes- if given the choice between complaining about not sweeping and losing a series give me this option all day long.

You can't really control all of the would have, could have, should have crap. What can be controlled is the managers making sound decisions to give you the best chance to win. But like I said, it's really the first glaring fck up Lemon has had. Better now than in June.

[Todd4State]

The difference in this game was simple. Arkansas SP took advantage of the bizarre strike zone the ump had and Small did until one shitty inning where he inexplicably pitched 4 straight BP fastballs. We were slow to get him out and they took a 3-1 lead. If that game is tied 2-2, Self is not in the ball game in the 8th. That extra run was the difference in Lemonis making a dumb decision. Sucks but hey we are 32-7. I do think we take two because I doubt very seriously anyone’s strike zone will be as bad as Walsh’s was tonight and we will have the pitching advantage the rest of the weekend.

Bingo.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/stats...ll%20Stats.pdf

Arky has 3 pitchers with ERA's under 2.5, Campbell and Cronin being 2 of them. Ginn, Plumlee, and the entire staff ready to go gives us a solid chance to win 2. I'm calling it 20% chance e get swept, 30% we win the series, 50% we take 1.

[CadaverDawg]

You can't really control all of the would have, could have, should have crap. What can be controlled is the managers making sound decisions to give you the best chance to win. But like I said, it's really the first glaring fck up Lemon has had. Better now than in June.

I agree. I just get really ****ing frustrated when guys making hundreds of thousands of dollars coaching baseball get outcoached by thousands of fans watching from their couch and getting paid nothing. Every State fan with eyes knew Self shouldn't have been out there....but our coaches didn't? In the grand scheme it's not a big loss, and I'm not really upset....I just tend to get frustrated with stupidity, and that was just a really dumb decision. Oh well, on to tomorrow

[MarketingBully]

Bingo.

Hey I know it looks like I’m defending Lemonis. Would I have had Self out there in the eighth? Hell no. I’m just trying in my mind to understand why a guy who basically pitches one pitch is out there with a one run deficit. I think I would have gone White in the eighth to face the righties and put Barlow in the ninth to face the lefties. This isn’t rocket science. You could of literally gone match ups for the eighth and ninth and you probably win the game. But the positive is we have all those guys fresh ready to go for the next two games****

[tcdog70]

Two lead off walks and they both score. Plus Jake getting picked off cost us a run, maybe more.

[MarketingBully]

https://arkansasrazorbacks.com/stats...ll%20Stats.pdf

Arky has 3 pitchers with ERA's under 2.5, Campbell and Cronin being 2 of them. Ginn, Plumlee, and the entire staff ready to go gives us a solid chance to win 2. I'm calling it 20% chance e get swept, 30% we win the series, 50% we take 1.

They’re starting a true freshman tomorrow (not good) and a back up QB on Saturday. If Plumlee pitches like he had the last two weeks, we will take two.

[Skydawg1]

Meanwhile, in a laugher game, Duplantis with 4 hits. Jake had one hit tonight.

[Liverpooldawg]

Like it or not, the only 2 sports we have a legitimate chance at a Natty are in Baseball and WBB. Even to have a chance at an SEC football title we would need a very down year in the league.

Yeah, but the only one we have spent any time at #1 at recently has been football. We CAN do it in football, if our poor old whooped down MSU attitudes will let us. Those attitudes include the "we will never do it" and the "we could do it NOW if only we had the right coach" idiots. The truth is somewhere in between. It won't be easy, and it won't be a "hire the right guy" thing. What we HAVE to do isJeep the floor up, no matter WHO the coach is. You have to look at this over the long haul. Keeping the FLOOR up consistently is WAY more important than elevating the ceiling in one particular year.

[Todd4State]

Hey I know it looks like I’m defending Lemonis. Would I have had Self out there in the eighth? Hell no. I’m just trying in my mind to understand why a guy who basically pitches one pitch is out there with a one run deficit. I think I would have gone White in the eighth to face the righties and put Barlow in the ninth to face the lefties. This isn’t rocket science. You could of literally gone match ups for the eighth and ninth and you probably win the game. But the positive is we have all those guys fresh ready to go for the next two games****

Self if you look at his numbers has actually been pretty effective in short one inning sometimes even two inning stints. So, that at THAT point really wasn't that bad a move. But he's not Riley Self 2017 where he can go 3-5 IP. He's also much better against RH hitters. But we all know what the problem here was- he was overextended and he was left in to face a LH hitter while overextended.


Sometimes the only way to explain something is it was a bad move. A mistake.


And I'm not sure that this was about saving people. It was just a bad move.

[Todd4State]

Yeah, but the only one we have spent any time at #1 at recently has been football. We CAN do it in football, if our poor old whooped down MSU attitudes will let us. Those attitudes include the "we will never do it" and the "we could do it NOW if only we had the right coach" idiots. The truth is somewhere in between. It won't be easy, and it won't be a "hire the right guy" thing. What we HAVE to do isJeep the floor up, no matter WHO the coach is. You have to look at this over the long haul. Keeping the FLOOR up consistently is WAY more important than elevating the ceiling in one particular year.

Do you REALLY want to compare how many times our baseball team- currently ranked #2-3 has been ranked #1 in the country historically compared to football? MSU baseball has actually played for National Titles before. MSU football hasn't yet. That's why our fans care about baseball.

[Skydawg1]

Anyone else think PM calls it quits after this year? They suck, and the future looks bleak, plus the new Aggie AD. He gone.

[CadaverDawg]

Anyone else think PM calls it quits after this year? They suck, and the future looks bleak, plus the new Aggie AD. He gone.

Yeah, he may get some encouragement to call it quits. I will not be surprised at all if he "retires" after this season

[Todd4State]

Anyone else think PM calls it quits after this year? They suck, and the future looks bleak, plus the new Aggie AD. He gone.

Your logic is plausible. However, I just don't think it happens.

He's two years off of a National Finals runner up and SEC Championship and he can play the injury card this year. He'll probably clean house with his assistants too.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Meanwhile, in a laugher game, Duplantis with 4 hits. Jake had one hit tonight.

Worst part, Mangum saw q total of 7 pitches tonight for the entire game.

[Skydawg1]

Your logic is plausible. However, I just don't think it happens.

He's two years off of a National Finals runner up and SEC Championship and he can play the injury card this year. He'll probably clean house with his assistants too.

We shall see. I'll just sit back and enjoy the shadenfruade. (sp?) I know I should just enjoy the fact that my own damn school is in the thick of it, but I just love seeing those dipshits getting killed on Friday nights and midweeks. Bwuuuahahahaha

[Liverpooldawg]

Do you REALLY want to compare how many times our baseball team- currently ranked #2-3 has been ranked #1 in the country historically compared to football? MSU baseball has actually played for National Titles before. MSU football hasn't yet. That's why our fans care about baseball.

Absolutely! We got more national exposure from that one deal than we have from the entire baseball program in it's storied but flawed history. College baseball is a complete niche sport. If our fans care more for it than football, then that's why football is where it is. It explains a LOT. There is a reason ESPN gives more exposure during the regular season to softball.

[Liverpooldawg]

We won't even get into Morgan William's shot to beat UCONN. That one single shot, in another toatal niche sport, has given more exposure to MSU nationally than the entire sum of our athletic program combined to date. Yeah, I totally agree, that sucks. That being said you can NOT ignore that perspective if you want to truely evaluate MSU athletics.

[Liverpooldawg]

We won't even get into Morgan William's shot to beat UCONN. That one single shot, in another toatal niche sport, has given more exposure to MSU nationally than the entire sum of our athletic program combined to date. Yeah, I totally agree, that sucks. That being said you can NOT ignore that perspective if you want to truely evaluate MSU athletics.

That is NOT "Poor Old MSU" by the way. It recognizes just how special that was, along with the highs for our baseball program, the Final Four in Men's basketball, and the SEC West title in football actually were. Eliminating "poor old MSU" first and foremost means recognizing where we are actually starting from and recognizing success measured against US. Until we do that we will never have success against the rest.

[Todd4State]

We shall see. I'll just sit back and enjoy the shadenfruade. (sp?) I know I should just enjoy the fact that my own damn school is in the thick of it, but I just love seeing those dipshits getting killed on Friday nights and midweeks. Bwuuuahahahaha

If you can't enjoy LSU losing to Southern you just can't get any pleasure out of life.

Absolutely! We got more national exposure from that one deal than we have from the entire baseball program in it's storied but flawed history. College baseball is a complete niche sport. If our fans care more for it than football, then that's why football is where it is. It explains a LOT. There is a reason ESPN gives more exposure during the regular season to softball.

Baseball is a niche sport but it has nothing to do with why our football team is where it is. ESPN gives as much exposure to college baseball as it does softball. If it doesn't- it's political. We can be good at both. Like a lot of SEC schools. No one outside of MSU people remember us being ranked number one anymore.