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    The 2019 Whiny posters about recruits thread.. (broken out of Recruit thread)

    We finish last in the SECW, and then Moorhead says there is a correlation between recruiting rankings and success. Guess we shouldn't have a lot of high hopes for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCDawg View Post
    We finish last in the SECW, and then Moorhead says there is a correlation between recruiting rankings and success. Guess we shouldn't have a lot of high hopes for the future.
    We did finish last BUT 5-7 is debatable and we can beat all but #1 if Schrader is the real deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCDawg View Post
    We finish last in the SECW, and then Moorhead says there is a correlation between recruiting rankings and success. Guess we shouldn't have a lot of high hopes for the future.
    We finished last because of #'s. We finished 5th in avg rating by recruit. Arkansas finished 1 spot ahead of us with 4 more recruits. OM finished 2 spots ahead of us with 10 more recruits. If we're going to say we finished last can we at least provide context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    We finished last because of #'s. We finished 5th in avg rating by recruit. Arkansas finished 1 spot ahead of us with 4 more recruits. OM finished 2 spots ahead of us with 10 more recruits. If we're going to say we finished last can we at least provide context.
    If you take OM's top 21 commits, their avg per recruit was better.

    ETA... I'll do ark and OM's. Give me a min

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    If you take OM's top 21 commits, their avg per recruit was better.

    ETA... I'll do ark and OM's. Give me a min
    So we can drop a couple of our lower ranked guys to increase our average too? Don't think it works that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    We finished last because of #'s. We finished 5th in avg rating by recruit. Arkansas finished 1 spot ahead of us with 4 more recruits. OM finished 2 spots ahead of us with 10 more recruits. If we're going to say we finished last can we at least provide context.
    Too add.
    Look at Ark class and our class and tell me which you had rather have
    We are better at OL, Qb, RB, DL
    They recruited better at DB and WR ... Even though I like what we did with our backend..

    Like IYOK said look at all factors in recruiting.. position players, number of players at one position, number of recruits in a class, ect....

    I will take our class over both Arky and OM ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    If you take OM's top 21 commits, their avg per recruit was better.

    ETA... I'll do ark and OM's. Give me a min
    Don’t waste your time .. I already broke this down..
    our class position by position as a whole is better than OM and Arky

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    If you take OM's top 21 commits, their avg per recruit was better.

    ETA... I'll do ark and OM's. Give me a min
    Lol......wow dude

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    2019 sec west avg per recruit using only top 21 commits:

    5. Ark .8900
    6. Om .8882
    7. State .8864

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    So we can drop a couple of our lower ranked guys to increase our average too? Don't think it works that way.
    Is our class better or worse with dj james? He'd pull down our avg per recruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Is our class better or worse with dj james? He'd pull down our avg per recruit.
    & he'd make us a higher ranking than Arkansas & these post wouldn't be made. It goes both ways. Add DJ James & a mid 3* & we have a higher ranked class than both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    & he'd make us a higher ranking than Arkansas & these post wouldn't be made. It goes both ways. Add DJ James & a mid 3* & we have a higher ranked class than both.
    Just pointing out the flaw in avg per recruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    2019 sec west avg per recruit using only top 21 commits:

    5. Ark .8900
    6. Om .8882
    7. State .8864
    That's even
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Just pointing out the flaw in avg per recruit.
    Yes & no because the avg recruit is for the whole class not just the best 21 or 25 or 30. You get punished in total class rankings based off # of signees but you can't just say well let's just use the top 21 for avg recruit ranking because those other 4 or 10 kids still were signed so you can't just ignore them. I see where you're coming from though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    That's even
    Right, which is why I think it's dumb for us to pump our chest out over that metric when we needed a couple more signees

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Right, which is why I think it's dumb for us to pump our chest out over that metric when we needed a couple more signees
    It's a diff between pumping our chest out & acknowledging something. Same way people say we finished last when the bottom 3 (OM, Arkansas, & MSU) are all pretty even rated 22-24. It's all about what side of the glass you want to look at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    It's a diff between pumping our chest out & acknowledging something. Same way people say we finished last when the bottom 3 (OM, Arkansas, & MSU) are all pretty even rated 22-24. It's all about what side of the glass you want to look at.
    Fair enough.

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    You guys drive me absolutely nuts sometimes. We get 2 or 3 commits in a day, all in state, all good players and we find a way to bitch about that.

    We are bitching over someone else's recruiting class being ranked a tenth or two higher than us and forget that we mopped the floor with both of them in the real world. I promise you Ark and OM would trade situations with us right now in a heartbeat.

    The difference in the 25th ranked class and the 15th is nothing. I would take ours over any of them and I bet we beat OM and Arkansas like a drum again next year. You should all drink a beer or something, if you get this way over recruiting I'd hate to see how you handle real adversity.

    Take IYOK's advice and only show up on signing day to bitch about ridiculous shit if you're going to bitch, a year of this is gonna be unbearable. This is the recruiting thread not the whiny bitch thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    You guys drive me absolutely nuts sometimes. We get 2 or 3 commits in a day, all in state, all good players and we find a way to bitch about that.

    We are bitching over someone else's recruiting class being ranked a tenth or two higher than us and forget that we mopped the floor with both of them in the real world. I promise you Ark and OM would trade situations with us right now in a heartbeat.

    The difference in the 25th ranked class and the 15th is nothing. I would take ours over any of them and I bet we beat OM and Arkansas like a drum again next year. You should all drink a beer or something, if you get this way over recruiting I'd hate to see how you handle real adversity.

    Take IYOK's advice and only show up on signing day to bitch about ridiculous shit if you're going to bitch, a year of this is gonna be unbearable. This is the recruiting thread not the whiny bitch thread
    Nothing like someone crying over someone else crying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Nothing like someone crying over someone else crying...
    Take it however you want it jack but its all truth and would make this thread a lot more enjoyable

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