Deke Adams.

[BhamDawg205]

This makes it even more depressing. They just did'nt want to be at MSU.

That's why this maybe the one of better hire... 1st we get a guy who should be motivated to prove there nay sayers wrong. 2nd his ties to MS and the south. His ties here may keep him from looking for the next big job. This could lead to the continuity that has led to Clemson's success. I don't know if this hire will workout, but up and comers don't stay around long enough.

[MrKotter]

This makes it even more depressing. They just did'nt want to be at MSU.

Good grief. It?s a freaking DL coach. It doesn?t take much to send the majority of you on an overly emotional roller coaster does it?

[bulldawg28]

He's produced All SEC lineman before so I'm good with it. It tells me if he has talent to work with he can perform. North Carolina Carolina had nothing.

[Hambone]

It?s not a narrative.

That?s what I was pointing out. It?s not a narrative, just a lazy excuse for people that just don?t like Cohen

[dawgday166]

That?s what I was pointing out. It?s not a narrative, just a lazy excuse for people that just don?t like Cohen

I get this from folks too and honestly, not sure why.

Cohen pissed me off a hundred times or so bunting in early innings after a leadoff double or some crap like that, but as an AD ... not saying he's great but don't know that he's bad. The verdict is still out ... he's only been AD about a little less than 2 years or so I think. There's a chance we won't know that Joe was a good hire or not for 2 or 3 more years. Lemonis now ... baseball isn't the same as football so he should produce a solid team this year IMO. And ... Cohen didn't hire Howland and I'm still not totally giving up on Howland yet. With Cann ... lots of guys can get screwed up in the head in those types of situations. Many other powerful or highly regarded men have fallen in similar circumstances.

[maroonmania]

Just curious, was Adams Clowney's coach in college? If so, that is nice on the resume.

[Cooterpoot]

Just curious, was Adams Clowney's coach in college? If so, that is nice on the resume.

For 1 season.

[dawgday166]

For 1 season.

Which season cause Clowney was better the year before his last year. His last year he wasn't as dominant as he had been and took plays off a good bit too.

[Really Clark?]

Which season cause Clowney was better the year before his last year. His last year he wasn't as dominant as he had been and took plays off a good bit too.

Deke’s first year was Clowney’s last. I have to give Brad Lawing credit for Clowney’s development, his prior coach at USCe

[Cooterpoot]

Adams isn’t a great coach. He’s a Trooper Taylor.

[BeastMan]

I brought his name to this board in 2016. Good coach

[Tbonewannabe]

Muschamp brought in Lance Thompson who had coached at 4 other SEC schools & was considered 1 of the best recruiters in the nation. He went from South Carolina to North Carolina not like he dropped down to Jacksonville St.

ETA: Thompson was gone from South Carolina after 3yrs too.

Just reading over it and Deke coached up Clowney and Quarles in his 3 years. SCe had a pretty good Dline while he was there.

[Tbonewannabe]

Good assistants cost $$$.... Cohen don?t play that game.

It has been mentioned that we offered Baker more than Bama to stay but he still left. Shoop was the 15th highest DC before his new extension. Moorhead is taking a pay cut so he has more resources.

[Really Clark?]

Just reading over it and Deke coached up Clowney and Quarles in his 3 years. SCe had a pretty good Dline while he was there.

He only coached Clowney and Quarles their last year and he was injured and not as productive his final year. Quarles did make second team All American. But they were developed by Lawing. And talented of course

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Grantham went from UGA to Louisville where he had pretty decent defenses (top 35)... that's very different than SC to 2 years in FCS, 1 at a bad P5, and then accepting a job at a G5. Comparing those 2 paths to State doesn't make much sense to me.

Similarly Baker was in HS when we got him, but he hadn't had the chance to prove himself in the SEC. Once he got one he capitalized and gained enough respect to get the Bama job. Deke spent 3 years in the SEC- if he was an above average SEC DL coach why did it take 4 years after SC to get another SEC job offer?

Of course all of y'all are all still right, this could end up being a great hire. There's no doubt good coaches can be overlooked. It's just we only have 2 explanations: 1) He's not an SEC level coach and everyone but us knows it, or 2) He's a good coach and nobody but us knows. Of course nobody but us thought Shoop or Grantham was an SEC level DC, so 2) certainly isn't out of the question. I'll just stay neutral on him till we get on field results

[maroonmania]

Grantham went from UGA to Louisville where he had pretty decent defenses (top 35)... that's very different than SC to 2 years in FCS, 1 at a bad P5, and then accepting a job at a G5. Comparing those 2 paths to State doesn't make much sense to me.

Similarly Baker was in HS when we got him, but he hadn't had the chance to prove himself in the SEC. Once he got one he capitalized and gained enough respect to get the Bama job. Deke spent 3 years in the SEC- if he was an above average SEC DL coach why did it take 4 years after SC to get another SEC job offer?

Of course all of y'all are all still right, this could end up being a great hire. There's no doubt good coaches can be overlooked. It's just we only have 2 explanations: 1) He's not an SEC level coach and everyone but us knows it, or 2) He's a good coach and nobody but us knows. Of course nobody but us thought Shoop or Grantham was an SEC level DC, so 2) certainly isn't out of the question. I'll just stay neutral on him till we get on field results

East Carolina is G5 not FCS. They play in the same conference with USM.

[Tbonewannabe]

So you think Spurrier is a "loser coach"?

I believe he forgot the *****

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Good grief. It?s a freaking DL coach. It doesn?t take much to send the majority of you on an overly emotional roller coaster does it?

hahaha oh my. Please slow your emotional roller coaster down sir.

[Tbonewannabe]

He only coached Clowney and Quarles their last year and he was injured and not as productive his final year. Quarles did make second team All American. But they were developed by Lawing. And talented of course

Clowney was also just trying to make it through the year healthy to get his payday. He halfassed it that entire year.

[bulldawg28]

Clowney was also just trying to make it through the year healthy to get his payday. He halfassed it that entire year.

Agreed, it had nothing to do with coaching unless you blame the DC and head coach for keeping him in the game. No DL coach has the authority to pull an All American.