2019 Recruiting Thread

[Cooterpoot]

Ealy isn’t going to AL. Same deal as Clemson.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Huff is doing his job & this doesn't have anything to do with baseball.

Did he call Penn State players when he left last year?

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Did he call Penn State players when he left last year?

we were certainly in it for Tyree

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

we were certainly in it for Tyree

Who was 2 years and 2 months away from signing with anyone when Huff came here, completely different than someone who's supposed to sign in 2 weeks.

And for the record JoMo was very clear they weren't trying to poach PSU's class

[msbulldog]

100% agree with you.

I had a CB recruit's parent tell me yesterday that T-Buck was a great dude, but not a closer. Said he basically said, "regardless of where y'all choose to go, y'all have my number and I'm here to help if you need anything.", type of stuff. Again, the guy couldn't be more complimentary of T-Buck, but his kid is going to a different SEC school, so that should tell you all you need to know. I don't think it's T-Buck's fault, he's just a good relationship guy that is not a closer...and in this division of this conference, you gotta ABC, always be closing, ha

C-Dawg the strategy With T-Buck should be let him be the set-up guy and bring a closer in when the time is ripe. been their done that.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Did he call Penn State players when he left last year?

That would be a JoeMo decision not Huff.

[Homedawg]

That would be a JoeMo decision not Huff.

That and the fact that bama is already in the head of every kid in America. Sort of easy to get in late on someone. State, however, isn't deep in the minds of many psu recruits. Just how it is.

[1bigdawg]

I guess the question is "could" he have closed the deal and landed the kid at MSU if he had pressed or was the kid going somewhere else regardless? As a recruiter you tend to handle people different ways.

I agree that you handle different people differently. However, we aren't landing guys. We had three that we "committed" that will always remember his as a nice guy.

[maroonmania]

100% agree with you.

I had a CB recruit's parent tell me yesterday that T-Buck was a great dude, but not a closer. Said he basically said, "regardless of where y'all choose to go, y'all have my number and I'm here to help if you need anything.", type of stuff. Again, the guy couldn't be more complimentary of T-Buck, but his kid is going to a different SEC school, so that should tell you all you need to know. I don't think it's T-Buck's fault, he's just a good relationship guy that is not a closer...and in this division of this conference, you gotta ABC, always be closing, ha

Well if you remember JoMo's first choice was to not keep T-Buck on staff. A couple of other guys he wanted fell through so he went back and talked him into staying. Maybe lack of recruiting prowess was a factor there?

[msbulldog]

Look I believe T-Buck is one of our hardest working recruiters, the stories you read, he is always visiting recruits.

[msstate7]

So looking like Washington to FSU and Emerson to Miami. We really need some good news

[Todd4State]

We dropped Reed earlier in the class and had to re-offer him. That says something to me. But don?t act like he brought in Cam, Peters, etc either.

Hevesy will have two of his guys drafted this year, one next year, and Reese later. He also found two solid players in Parker and Story. I might add, he did get Rankin too. Eiland didn?t look bad when filling in for Rankin last year either. You also forgot to mention that he was a big reason we were able to get Suggs and Johnson. Suggs will be a major player for us this upcoming year upfront.

As I recall, you were all about us trying to sign Nik Hogan last year and that proved to me how little you know about OL.

You recall incorrectly about Nik Hogan which proves how little you know about what I post. Feel free to link it so I can apologize.

I didn't act like he brought in Peters. But it was T-Buck's idea to move him to CB where he is now likely to be a NFL draft pick. And he held on to Dantlzer and has done a great job developing him. Reed, Williams and Furdge may or may not pan out- but we have options of guys to at least try. Unlike Hevesy and his 2-3 recruit OL classes which have caused depth issues and us having to play some of your favorite o-linemen out of position. And in the past those depth issues have caused us to have to move TE's like Rufus Warren and DL like James Carmon to the o-line to fill a void. We won't have to do that at CB. Despite all of T-Buck's misses- he at least goes back and gets someone to fill the spot instead of signing no one at all. The only way that would be comparable would be if T-Buck didn't sign guys he targeted, was lazy and we were having to move safeties to CB every year.

He did get Rankin- but he also redshirted him when he should have played him instead of Rufus Warren which hurt us in 2015. He also missed him out of high school.

And let's look at our o-line. Which wasn't all that great especially if you remember our o-lines in 1980 and 1998.

C- Jenkins. You give him credit yet Hevesy didn't offer him until the last day in January. Probably after a bunch of misses on his part. Giving Hevesy credit here is like giving a blind squirrel credit for finding a nut.


G- Williams. I'll give him credit here. However, we're having to switch him to center because someone apparently forgot that centers were part of the o-line the past five years.


G- Calhoun. Solid player. We'll see if he gets drafted. It will be round 5-7 if he does.


T- Eiland. Part of the reason he looked good last year was because he started against BYU, Kentucky before Josh Allen's switch went on, A&M with a lot of injuries if I recall correctly, and UMass. The other reason he looked bad is because he was a sophomore who had to start in the SEC as a sophomore. Because someone told a guy who started for Clemson that his hands were too small. Which meant we couldn't use Eiland at RT where he would have been far less exposed. Also this entire o-line struggled with really good defenses last year too. Let's not forget Georgia and Auburn last year when talking about how bad they were this year.


T- Reese. If I can't give T-Buck credit for Dantlzer you sure as hell can't give Hevesy credit for Reese. Who ironically was recruited by T-Buck and not wanted by Hevesy at all. And again another OL playing too soon and out of position because Hevesy failed to fill needs in recruiting. And again- thank God for T-Buck getting him or we would have been worse.


We'll see on Parker, Suggs, and Story. But they are in the exact same position that Reed, Williams, and Furdge are right now in their development except for Story being slightly further along. And Reed was offered by Tennessee after we dropped him and that tells me something as well. And I hope you are right about Suggs because otherwise Hevesy would have completely crapped out with Montravious Richardson and Josh Cooper who never qualified. But at least Brian Baker got us Josh Jackson who we moved to center this year.

[NCDawg]

Well if you remember JoMo's first choice was to not keep T-Buck on staff. A couple of other guys he wanted fell through so he went back and talked him into staying. Maybe lack of recruiting prowess was a factor there?

Mullen took quite a few of our coaches with him to Florida, but excluded T-Buck. Wonder if recruiting was a major factor.

[maroonmania]

Mullen took quite a few of our coaches with him to Florida, but excluded T-Buck. Wonder if recruiting was a major factor.

Mullen? Not keep a coach because of recruiting skills? Surely you jest.

[Todd4State]

Well if you remember JoMo's first choice was to not keep T-Buck on staff. A couple of other guys he wanted fell through so he went back and talked him into staying. Maybe lack of recruiting prowess was a factor there?

I think his issue to me is he pays more attention to out of state guys at least initially like Brooks, James, and etc. when I would rather see him focus on guys more on in state guys like Raydarious Jones. I'm not saying totally ignore out of state guys but I would say be a little wiser with guys that aren't in state guys who are also "looking at other options" and be willing to drop those guys if we have to.

[Cooterpoot]

TBuck didn’t want to go with Mullen.

[BankerDog]

Kunddarius Taylor list us in his top-3..?20 Juco WR who was the best WR at Co-Lin last year. Kid is a ball player that we need, real game changer.

[Rayburn8]

Mullen took quite a few of our coaches with him to Florida, but excluded T-Buck. Wonder if recruiting was a major factor.

T-Buck did not like Mullen.

[Cooterpoot]

Not getting Taylor.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Mullen? Not keep a coach because of recruiting skills? Surely you jest.

The Mullen can't recruit argument is tired. When will be face the facts that this might be the way it is here. He don't seem to be having many recruiting issues at Florida OR was he right in saying the the name on the jersey recruits itself?