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01-21-2019, 07:55 PM
#6201

Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Hard work is entirely overrated.
You either got it or you don't. You either get the job done or you don't.
We currently aren't getting the job done. Period
Well the hard work and relationship building probably won't really start reaping benefits until the 2020 signing class. If we don't see things taking a significant uptick to the positive due to those things then we probably won't be seeing it at all.
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01-21-2019, 07:57 PM
#6202
We should’ve made it clear if they didn’t sign their spots could be filled, and then aggressively pursued other players like Lockhart and Duncan etc. We waited too long.
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01-21-2019, 08:04 PM
#6203

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
We should’ve made it clear if they didn’t sign their spots could be filled, and then aggressively pursued other players like Lockhart and Duncan etc. We waited too long.
Seems people are still trying to figure out how to go about the early signing period. We can tell them that their spots might get filled but its also becoming clear that in the future if you're a decent player you can get a ton of solid offers after early signing day. Bigger programs get to focus all their attention on them all the sudden. I bet we will start to see a lot more players wait in the future, and it ultimately does not look like a positive for us.
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01-21-2019, 08:07 PM
#6204

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
We should’ve made it clear if they didn’t sign their spots could be filled, and then aggressively pursued other players like Lockhart and Duncan etc. We waited too long.
Both are still in play
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01-21-2019, 08:13 PM
#6205

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
Both are still in play
Both would be committed or signed had we not waited though. Now they’re blowing up. I would’ve taken them when a couple of those guys were non-committal.
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01-21-2019, 08:15 PM
#6206

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
We should’ve made it clear if they didn’t sign their spots could be filled, and then aggressively pursued other players like Lockhart and Duncan etc. We waited too long.
I thought that too, but a lot of people on this board were saying, "our alumni is crazy-let them take their visits and have their fun-we don't have anything to worry about."
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01-21-2019, 08:19 PM
#6207

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Both would be committed or signed had we not waited though. Now they’re blowing up. I would’ve taken them when a couple of those guys were non-committal.
I agree with that.
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01-21-2019, 08:22 PM
#6208

Originally Posted by
jacksondawg
FSU just offered Darius Washington I assume he?s gone now too
Why would you assume that?
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01-21-2019, 08:26 PM
#6209

Originally Posted by
msbulldog
Why would you assume that?
Many have said that he's been holding out for an FSU offer.
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01-21-2019, 08:27 PM
#6210

Originally Posted by
msbulldog
Why would you assume that?
It's two hours from home and it's the offer he's been waiting for.
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01-21-2019, 08:35 PM
#6211

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
It's two hours from home and it's the offer he's been waiting for.
It's getting pretty old that we're the "fall-back" offer. I think Dabo Swinney has it right-if somebody is committed to another school, we don't bring them in for a visit. Also, if a kid commits to us, we don't expect him to visit other schools, and if he does, he no longer has a scholarship offer from us.
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01-21-2019, 08:38 PM
#6212

Originally Posted by
NCDawg
..... Also, if a kid commits to us, we don't expect him to visit other schools, and if he does, he no longer has a scholarship offer from us.
You really want that? You gonna tell Nathan Pickering to take a hike? Stupid
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01-21-2019, 08:46 PM
#6213

Originally Posted by
Dawg-gone-dawgs
You really want that? You gonna tell Nathan Pickering to take a hike? Stupid
I was waiting on you to chime in with usual stupid post. Yeah, I'm telling him that and anybody else that commits to us that takes other visits. That's the only way you're going to stop it in my opinion.i
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01-21-2019, 08:53 PM
#6214

Originally Posted by
NCDawg
I was waiting on you to chime in with usual stupid post. Yeah, I'm telling him that and anybody else that commits to us that takes other visits. That's the only way you're going to stop it in my opinion.i
You absolutely can?t do that with someone like Pickering. Absurd idea. And Dabo didn?t start the ?cant come if you are committed somewhere else? deal until they were in the playoffs. Oh and they also have committed players take other visits and don?t give them ultimatums or drop them.
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01-21-2019, 09:03 PM
#6215

Originally Posted by
NCDawg
I was waiting on you to chime in with usual stupid post. Yeah, I'm telling him that and anybody else that commits to us that takes other visits. That's the only way you're going to stop it in my opinion.i
You were waiting on my post? Weird. How was my post stupid? If my post was stupid you are making me look smart. You are the one wanting to tell a high 4 star DL to leave if he visits somewhere else. That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read on this board.
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01-21-2019, 09:05 PM
#6216

Originally Posted by
NCDawg
I was waiting on you to chime in with usual stupid post. Yeah, I'm telling him that and anybody else that commits to us that takes other visits. That's the only way you're going to stop it in my opinion.i
With some recruits you can give an ultimatum, but with the highly recruited kids that you want, there is no way you can tell them that. If you do, then you can probably say bye to them, or more accurately they will more than likely say bye to you.
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01-21-2019, 09:20 PM
#6217

Originally Posted by
yjnkdawg
With some recruits you can give an ultimatum, but with the highly recruited kids that you want, there is no way you can tell them that. If you do, then you can probably say bye to them, or more accurately they will likely say bye to you.
I guess it's what you mean by commitment. My definition is commitment means your word is your bond. He can visit all the schools he chooses before he commits. When he commits, it is my opinion that he should not visit any more schools regardless of whether he is a highly recruited kid or not. If he breaks his bond, maybe he's not the type kid we need anyway.
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01-21-2019, 09:49 PM
#6218

Originally Posted by
NCDawg
I guess it's what you mean by commitment. My definition is commitment means your word is your bond. He can visit all the schools he chooses before he commits. When he commits, it is my opinion that he should not visit any more schools regardless of whether he is a highly recruited kid or not. If he breaks his bond, maybe he's not the type kid we need anyway.
That would be the ideal situation, but it's not reality in this day and time of recruiting. Most of these highly recruited kids want to take trips and go places where they have never been, and have the red carpet treatment laid out for them. Pickering is recruiting for us and is still committed. Now when you have out-of-state kids committed (with no previous ties to MSU growing up), and they want to start taking trips, then that's normally a problem, or can be one.
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01-21-2019, 10:23 PM
#6219

Originally Posted by
Bothrops
Mingo has a visit with OM coming.
I know that. That doesnt mean we arent in good shape
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01-21-2019, 10:25 PM
#6220

Originally Posted by
NCDawg
It's getting pretty old that we're the "fall-back" offer. I think Dabo Swinney has it right-if somebody is committed to another school, we don't bring them in for a visit. Also, if a kid commits to us, we don't expect him to visit other schools, and if he does, he no longer has a scholarship offer from us.
Is that really true?
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