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01-04-2019, 03:20 PM
#5501

Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
I remember people saying Senquez Golson and JT Ginn among others having zero chance of going to college..."ZERO chance"....
Neither comparison is really in the same ballpark. This kid has a shot at working into the top half of the first round.
If he was going to be playing QB at the next level it would make a bit more sense but taking the abuse he will at RB I just can't see it. You never know something weird could happen. A lot of time from now until the draft. We would be dumb not to sign him if we could.
Minor League ball is a different kind of challenge in and of itself. Missing out on the college experience may be a big factor in his decision especially if money isn't a huge issue.
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01-04-2019, 03:25 PM
#5502
I am all for signing him just don't think he plays football as an RB in the SEC if he is a 1st rounder.
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01-06-2019, 12:38 PM
#5503
Lincoln Riley just landed 5-star wr from Georgia. Riley adds him to 5-star wr, 5-star qb, 97 rated wr, and 96 rated te. Oklahoma offense bout to be unstoppable
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01-06-2019, 12:44 PM
#5504

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Lincoln Riley just landed 5-star wr from Georgia. Riley adds him to 5-star wr, 5-star qb, 97 rated wr, and 96 rated te. Oklahoma offense bout to be unstoppable
Wasn't it already unstoppable?
Big 12 is a great place for offensive recruits. Put up big numbers, win, and never get hit hard.
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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01-06-2019, 12:57 PM
#5505

Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Wasn't it already unstoppable?
Big 12 is a great place for offensive recruits. Put up big numbers, win, and never get hit hard.
Bama stopped them the 1st quarter. Last year, Oklahoma class was defense at top. This year it is elite offensive heavy. If Riley makes a good defensive hire, they may make it to championship game next year
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01-06-2019, 01:14 PM
#5506

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Bama stopped them the 1st quarter. Last year, Oklahoma class was defense at top. This year it is elite offensive heavy. If Riley makes a good defensive hire, they may make it to championship game next year
Going to depend how quickly the new QB adjusts. He was blessed with 2 Heisman trophy winning, 1st Rd QB caliber guys.
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01-06-2019, 01:23 PM
#5507

Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
Going to depend how quickly the new QB adjusts. He was blessed with 2 Heisman trophy winning, 1st Rd QB caliber guys.
I think Riley had a lot to do with those 2 guys. Obviously qb is a question mark, but gotta figure Riley can get it right.
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01-06-2019, 02:05 PM
#5508

Originally Posted by
Ifyouonlyknew
Going to depend how quickly the new QB adjusts. He was blessed with 2 Heisman trophy winning, 1st Rd QB caliber guys.
Lotta smoke that he may come back next year.
The thinking is how he progresses with A’s will determine whether he goes to NFL.
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01-06-2019, 03:07 PM
#5509

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
Lotta smoke that he may come back next year.
The thinking is how he progresses with A’s will determine whether he goes to NFL.
I can't figure out why he would come back next year. My only reasoning is that there is no way the NFL team that takes him would also allow him to play baseball & thus he would lose about half of money from Oakland, but, if he stayed at Oklahoma for one more season, he could play for the A's for one season, keep all of his baseball money, & then go full-time to the NFL.
It's the only reason for him to come back to Oklahoma
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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01-06-2019, 03:16 PM
#5510

Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
I can't figure out why he would come back next year. My only reasoning is that there is no way the NFL team that takes him would also allow him to play baseball & thus he would lose about half of money from Oakland, but, if he stayed at Oklahoma for one more season, he could play for the A's for one season, keep all of his baseball money, & then go full-time to the NFL.
It's the only reason for him to come back to Oklahoma
If he is a top 20 pick in the NFL draft is a minimum of 10 million guaranteed as the floor of a rookie contract. The 3.5 million is nice, but you are on a rookie contract for several years even assuming you make it to the majors, the odds are that the signing bonus is the most money you make in your entire MLB career. Hitting 87 mph sliders is hard.
He could play in the A's system this spring/summer and if he is dominant, maybe he gives up football. If he struggles to hit he goes back to OU and maybe improves his draft stock to the point that he is a top 10 pick.
Also, as I understand it, most signing bonuses in MLB are structured in such a way that you have to play in the minors to keep it, that its not like you can play 2 seasons in MILB, decide its not for you and go play football and keep the 3.5 million, but someone more versed in baseball can correct me.
I think coming back for his senior season gives him the most options to make the most long term money. That is unless of course some team in the top 5 of the NFL draft made some type of guarantee (Which I don't believe happens) then go pro.
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01-06-2019, 03:43 PM
#5511

Originally Posted by
HancockCountyDog
If he is a top 20 pick in the NFL draft is a minimum of 10 million guaranteed as the floor of a rookie contract. The 3.5 million is nice, but you are on a rookie contract for several years even assuming you make it to the majors, the odds are that the signing bonus is the most money you make in your entire MLB career. Hitting 87 mph sliders is hard.
He could play in the A's system this spring/summer and if he is dominant, maybe he gives up football. If he struggles to hit he goes back to OU and maybe improves his draft stock to the point that he is a top 10 pick.
Also, as I understand it, most signing bonuses in MLB are structured in such a way that you have to play in the minors to keep it, that its not like you can play 2 seasons in MILB, decide its not for you and go play football and keep the 3.5 million, but someone more versed in baseball can correct me.
I think coming back for his senior season gives him the most options to make the most long term money. That is unless of course some team in the top 5 of the NFL draft made some type of guarantee (Which I don't believe happens) then go pro.
Maybe. I'm just not sure he can get anything more from a football standpoint by going back to OU. His stock is at an all time high right now in a weak QB class.
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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01-06-2019, 05:03 PM
#5512
Weak QB class? This class has Fitz in it !! Made ya laugh and you know it.
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01-06-2019, 05:42 PM
#5513
Can we take the Oklahoma talk to a different thread please? Not only does it have nothing to do with MSU recruiting, has nothing to do with MSU.
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01-06-2019, 08:35 PM
#5514

Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Can we take the Oklahoma talk to a different thread please? Not only does it have nothing to do with MSU recruiting, has nothing to do with MSU.
About every 10 posts we go down the rabbit hole.
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01-06-2019, 08:42 PM
#5515

Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
How do we convince him we can throw the ball?
Gonna hurt some feelings but Moorhead will blame it all on Fitz
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01-06-2019, 08:45 PM
#5516

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Lincoln Riley just landed 5-star wr from Georgia. Riley adds him to 5-star wr, 5-star qb, 97 rated wr, and 96 rated te. Oklahoma offense bout to be unstoppable
Yeah they sign highly rated guys on defense too and you see how bad they are. Again, ratings never won anyone a game
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01-06-2019, 08:59 PM
#5517

Originally Posted by
maroonmania
Can we take the Oklahoma talk to a different thread please? Not only does it have nothing to do with MSU recruiting, has nothing to do with MSU.
This
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01-07-2019, 10:05 AM
#5518

Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Maybe. I'm just not sure he can get anything more from a football standpoint by going back to OU. His stock is at an all time high right now in a weak QB class.
Perhaps he has no plans to play football on the next level and just wants one more season of playing QB. He can play baseball in Oakland's system this summer, come back and play football at OU, then go back to Oakland for good.
That's actually the route I would take if I were him. Have one more year of fun playing football, then give everything you have to baseball. Even if he doesn't make it, there will still be an NFL team willing to take a chance on him in 4-5 years.
Last edited by smootness; 01-07-2019 at 10:07 AM.
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01-07-2019, 10:19 AM
#5519

Originally Posted by
smootness
Perhaps he has no plans to play football on the next level and just wants one more season of playing QB. He can play baseball in Oakland's system this summer, come back and play football at OU, then go back to Oakland for good.
That's actually the route I would take if I were him. Have one more year of fun playing football, then give everything you have to baseball. Even if he doesn't make it, there will still be an NFL team willing to take a chance on him in 4-5 years.
He has plans to play football at the next level
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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01-07-2019, 10:25 AM
#5520
Mingo already has an OV scheduled and I think Byron does too.
Need to get Plumlee on campus. With all of our DB commits bolting, we have to find some replacements
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