Outback vs. Iowa

[dawgday166]

We've only faced 2 good TEs this season. Sternberger, we held down quite nicely... 2 catches 13 yards. Irv smith got us pretty good... 5 catches 70 yards.

I didn't remember Smith getting us that good but ... we were kinda focusing on three 5* WRs too at the time. I like our D against anyone if they come focused and ready to play. Anyone.

ETA: Saban wishes he had our D. If so Ga only scores 14 max and we don't have to tackle them by their facemask to get them down either.

[RocketDawg]

Absolutely agree with that. Play or you don't get the benefits.

True, but if you have a several million dollar future in the NFL, a little bowl swag may not mean a lot, financially. I'd rather see them play, but I can understand if they choose not to play. I've seen some that back off their entire senior year. And remember Colt McCoy's father basically pulling him out of the national championship game with Alabama a few years ago?

[Bully13]

I'm worried/ surprised we are only 4 point favorites

[RocketDawg]

I believe you could possibly be thninking of the Lil' brother University, Iowa State, MSU will not be playing ISU which is a University of Science and Technology.
The University of Iowa, Home Of The Iowa Hawkeyes is the flagship public research university in Iowa City, Iowa.

It's OK. We all know who we're playing. It's sort of an inside joke I suppose, because ESPN especially, and many other media members, seem to get us confused with the University of Mississippi (Ole Miss), so we tend to just pass the confusion around a bit. This afternoon at the women's basketball game with Texas, one of the announcers even referred to us as Southern Miss.

[RocketDawg]

Iowa State (ISU) is the land grant school in Iowa with the agronomy, vet med, dairy, beef, swine, ag biz admin etc. programs. Iowa has the medical school, law school and so on.

Purdue, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Illinois, Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers and Maryland are the land grant Big10 schools, much like Miss State.

Which is the primary engineering school?

[Recreationalgynecologist]

Iowa State. Iowa has engineering but ISU is where the primary civil, mechanical, chemical engineering programs are. Iowa is where the law, medicine, actuarial sciences, astronomy, business/finance/mba, speech pathology, audiology, nursing and dental schools are located. The Writer's Workshop is one of the best in the country.

[Jarius]

Absolutely agree with that. Play or you don't get the benefits.

That is a horrible idea. The reason these guys are not playing is because they are good enough to be NFL stars. Those are not the type of people that you want to alienate right before they become millionaires. They can do a lot for your program going forward. Treat them right. Do not cut off your nose to spite your face.

[RocketDawg]

Iowa State. Iowa has engineering but ISU is where the primary civil, mechanical, chemical engineering programs are. Iowa is where the law, medicine, actuarial sciences, astronomy, business/finance/mba, speech pathology, audiology, nursing and dental schools are located. The Writer's Workshop is one of the best in the country.

Thanks. MSU is the primary engineering school in Mississippi, but Ole Miss has a small (?) one. We have a pretty big business/finance college unless I'm mistaken, as well as education and nursing.

Iowa City is also the headquarters for the ACT college entrance testing if I'm not mistaken. Many years ago, I remember taking a yearly standardized test in high school called the ITED ... Iowa Test of Educational Development. I'm not sure if it still exists or not.

[Recreationalgynecologist]

Thanks. MSU is the primary engineering school in Mississippi, but Ole Miss has a small (?) one. We have a pretty big business/finance college unless I'm mistaken, as well as education and nursing.

Iowa City is also the headquarters for the ACT college entrance testing if I'm not mistaken. Many years ago, I remember taking a yearly standardized test in high school called the ITED ... Iowa Test of Educational Development. I'm not sure if it still exists or not.

Yea, there's a school of education at each of the three state universities and several of the private schools as well. Iowa likely has the more well-established graduate programs in education and administration.

The ITED is still around as well as the Iowa Test of Basic Skills. (or Iowa Assessments) The ACT is a pretty decent sized employer in Iowa City, so they seem to be doing well. Iowa and ISU are fairly different culturally, which is a given with fundamental differences in program emphasis, which is reflected in the student body. ISU has a slightly larger undergraduate enrollment with a higher percentage of in-state students. ISU likely has the stronger Greek system as well, which isn't surprising. The land grant schools in the Big 10 and midwest tend to be more Greek oriented while the others aren't so much. ISU is in a more rural setting, so that Greeks tend to fill the social void there. Iowa typically draws from a larger pool nationwide (and Chicago) and has a higher graduate enrollment. The University Hospitals & Clinics seem to contain a big chunk of that number.