a 8 win regular season but at the same token I think some MSU fans are very quick to settle. After all, we're poor lil' ole MSU and we should know our place, right. What's wrong with looking at it from the perspective that while we "may" win 8 games (and that's ASSUMING we win Thursday) we underperformed considering our talent level. There is no doubt in my mind (none) we're better than 3 of the 4 teams we lost to. The truth doesn't change, even if you choose to avoid it.