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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Fitz was 9-14 for 127 and 4 passing TDS. Almost 50% of his passes were TDS. We ran the ball a ton, but when we threw it, we scored.
    Passer rating was 234.77. Dak only reached that 1 time as a starter vs northwestern st

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Fitz was hot in the third quarter. It doesn't take away or add to his play for the entirety of the year. I'm sorry but I expected more from him this year. He regressed and the coach isn't to blame. You work until you fix the problems if your the team captain. He stinks it up with any lively defense.
    Yeah but that wasn?t was being discussed. You said he was ?ok? yesterday and that wasn?t true. And we?ve debate who should carry what blame for the season and struggles. We won yesterday, he was great the second half, let?s beat the heck out of OM!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Fitz was 9-14 for 127 and 4 passing TDS. Almost 50% of his passes were TDS. We ran the ball a ton, but when we threw it, we scored.
    Really? If you want to play that game the backup had a higher completion percentage along with the touchdown to pass ratio better. I give Fitz his credit Saturday but come on man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Passer rating was 234.77. Dak only reached that 1 time as a starter vs northwestern st
    Thompson had a 285.6 rating yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Yeah but that wasn?t was being discussed. You said he was ?ok? yesterday and that wasn?t true. And we?ve debate who should carry what blame for the season and struggles. We won yesterday, he was great the second half, let?s beat the heck out of OM!!
    Agreed brother man

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Really? If you want to play that game the backup had a higher completion percentage along with the touchdown to pass ratio better. I give Fitz his credit Saturday but come on man.
    I’m not knocking Key. You’re knocking Fitz. Fitz played well. 212 yards, 5 TDS in 3+ qtrs is strong. Once he shook off the Sr day emotions he was lights out.

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    Why would those concerned instantly change their opinion after beating the SEC's

    worst team? Even if we win out we've underperformed but a win against a 2 win Upig team should change everyone's opinion. Riiight?..
    "The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltydog View Post
    worst team? Even if we win out we've underperformed but a win against a 2 win Upig team should change everyone's opinion. Riiight?..
    It is kinda amazing what folks get excited about on here LOL.

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    If we win 8/9 games, I won’t be disappointed with the season. If a State fan is, they’re a damn fool. It’s fine to be disappointed losing a couple games, but we were going to lose at least two no matter what with a new staff coming in. And at the end of the day, we’d still be no better than 2nd in the west. We’re shooting for 3rd this week. I refused to be too pissed about that. Mullen usually finished 4th/5th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltydog View Post
    worst team? Even if we win out we've underperformed but a win against a 2 win Upig team should change everyone's opinion. Riiight?..
    Just the opposite happened last week after we lost to Alabama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    I?m not knocking Key. You?re knocking Fitz. Fitz played well. 212 yards, 5 TDS in 3+ qtrs is strong. Once he shook off the Sr day emotions he was lights out.
    That was senior day emotions? It sure looked like typical Fitz. Fitz for Heisman! Is that better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    I get the vitriol that has been in the Egg Bowl recently. Mullen stoked that fire. Moorhead is gonna make this just another game. He's going to take the emotion out of it and make it another game. I think the emotion gave OM an edge against.

    Moorhead prepping this team to keep the same high standard is going to favor us. Doesn't matter whether we have executed at a high level every week. But that the expectation is there is going to give us an advantage.

    We beat the brakes off them on Thanksgiving.
    You will never take the emotion out of this game and he shouldnt

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    I understand from a "historical" perspective why some MSU fans are happy with

    a 8 win regular season but at the same token I think some MSU fans are very quick to settle. After all, we're poor lil' ole MSU and we should know our place, right. What's wrong with looking at it from the perspective that while we "may" win 8 games (and that's ASSUMING we win Thursday) we underperformed considering our talent level. There is no doubt in my mind (none) we're better than 3 of the 4 teams we lost to. The truth doesn't change, even if you choose to avoid it.
    "The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)

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    That was our first senior day win in four years. Moorhead may not be the right guy but if we win Thursday I'll be happy that we have a coach that can win games at the end of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    We had some legitimately concerned about today. Obviously that section of the fan base has totally overblown what has gone on this year.

    I get it. It's Arkansas. But the offensive play calling has been well schemed. We have executed it very well today. We've seen improvement from a number of players from game 3 to today. Guys look more comfortable. Play calling looks more in rhythm. Team has played hard all year.

    I like this guy a lot and from all accounts the team loves him. It wasn't like that across the board under Mullen and that's important.
    My concern is that he believes in finesse and not physicality. See a lack of a QB sneak. It's not like it takes any effort at all to install that play, the players all know it and he has the personnel for it. He just doesn't believe in doing it, even though it's proven to work and he's failing in those scenarios when trying something else. He insists on a finesse solution. I hope he grows out of that because if not he will never succeed in the SEC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    My concern is that he believes in finesse and not physicality. See a lack of a QB sneak. It's not like it takes any effort at all to install that play, the players all know it and he has the personnel for it. He just doesn't believe in doing it, even though it's proven to work and he's failing in those scenarios when trying something else. He insists on a finesse solution. I hope he grows out of that because if not he will never succeed in the SEC.
    Agree with this to a point. When Cohen talks about Moorhead being a football 'savant' it lends itself to a coach that wants to outsmart everyone and is not interested in being physical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    It is kinda amazing what folks get excited about on here LOL.
    It's also kinda amazing what people do not get excited about.

    If you score 52 points against a JC school it should be exciting.

    If you give up no TD's against a JC team it should be exciting.

    Yet we want to degrade out team for just playing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltydog View Post
    a 8 win regular season but at the same token I think some MSU fans are very quick to settle. After all, we're poor lil' ole MSU and we should know our place, right. What's wrong with looking at it from the perspective that while we "may" win 8 games (and that's ASSUMING we win Thursday) we underperformed considering our talent level. There is no doubt in my mind (none) we're better than 3 of the 4 teams we lost to. The truth doesn't change, even if you choose to avoid it.
    If you want to be mad about underachieving, be mad that we had go through a coaching transition with this team. With the QB missing spring practice and the first game of the season. 2 of those 3 losses happened in our 4th and 5th games of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeWonItAll(Most) View Post
    If you want to be mad about underachieving, be mad that we had go through a coaching transition with this team. With the QB missing spring practice and the first game of the season. 2 of those 3 losses happened in our 4th and 5th games of the season.
    Be mad at our offensive recruiting three years ago.

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