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I took it as “wtf do y’all know about winning championships, sit down and stfu!” Did I take it the wron way?
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Except that:
We won the SEC West already
Were ranked #1 in the Playoff Polls for 6 weeks
And have been a contender for the SEC pretty much every season for the past 8 save maybe 2 or 3.
Hes' right, though, we haven't won the SEC Champ yet so there's that. Guess poor ol Mittittipi Tate don't kno nuthin bout no footbal
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Y'all always talking about Dan would've done this or that. He's just bringing some Dan condescension to the fans to make them feel good.
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Originally Posted by
Doggie_Style
You can't come in here and talk about trophies and ring sizes, get your ass handed to you in SEC play and then say "I understand the disappointment, but reality is reality. There's really not a barometer for what it takes to win an SEC Championship in Starkville."
You sure as hell can when your ass shoulders the blame like he has. He's not gonna come in and say well I hope to be mediocre and compete in most games.
You should be ashamed for thinking he really meant that. I sure as hell never thought it.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgology
And have been a contender for the SEC pretty much every season for the past 8 save maybe 2 or 3.
This part has to be a joke, right? Mullen finished above .500 in the SEC exactly once in 9 years in the 2014 season.
SEC record by season:
2010: 4-4
2011: 2-6
2012: 4-4
2013: 3-5
2014: 6-2
2015: 4-4
2016: 3-5
2017: 4-4
Please point out to me the 5 to 6 seasons out of the last 8 where we were in contention for the SEC. Out of those 8 seasons, assuming Joe wins the last 2, he will have matched Mullen's conference record in 4 of the 8 seasons and exceeded Mullen's record in 3 of the 8. I'm not overly thrilled with Joe or this season, but at least be honest.
ETA: not even putting in 2009 since it was a monumental effort to do as well as he did overcoming Croom.
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I feel like I am in a time loope with the Coach 34 vs Stands.
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
You sure as hell can when your ass shoulders the blame like he has. He's not gonna come in and say well I hope to be mediocre and compete in most games.
You should be ashamed for thinking he really meant that. I sure as hell never thought it.
How about he just give coach speak like the other 99% of coaches out there? Saban, urban, Sean Payton, belichick, etc never talk that sheet joe did in the offseason, and they can actually back it up... Payton only sometimes lol
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
How about he just give coach speak like the other 99% of coaches out there? Saban, urban, Sean Payton, belichick, etc never talk that sheet joe did in the offseason, and they can actually back it up... Payton only sometimes lol
I'm in 100% agreement. I would have preferred he didn't say it. But since he did, we judge him on what he's done since. He's owned up that it's his fault. That is refreshing and makes me respect him more.
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
You sure as hell can when your ass shoulders the blame like he has. He's not gonna come in and say well I hope to be mediocre and compete in most games.
You should be ashamed for thinking he really meant that. I sure as hell never thought it.
You're probably right. A lot of us State fans are naive, and should be ashamed for believing he really meant what he said. We also shouldn't have believed him when he said he thought we had enough talent to get to Atlanta at the beginning of the season. Yeah, reality is reality. We should have known better.
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Our new logo: "Championship standard... well, sort of."
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
How about he just give coach speak like the other 99% of coaches out there? Saban, urban, Sean Payton, belichick, etc never talk that sheet joe did in the offseason, and they can actually back it up... Payton only sometimes lol
Managing expectations with coach speak only matters to the weak minded mob. The irony is that the bravado coming in WAS coach speak to instill confidence. Doing otherwise and getting this result would have made folks like you feel even worse - "He doesn't have the confidence to coach in this league, he was beat the minute he showed up."
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Originally Posted by
NCDawg
You're probably right. A lot of us State fans are naive, and should be ashamed for believing he really meant what he said. We also shouldn't have believed him when he said he thought we had enough talent to get to Atlanta at the beginning of the season. Yeah, reality is reality. We should have known better.
I just want to know what you guys would have preferred. If I'm drumming up some emotion and trying to get buy in I'm not walking in saying well we are going to work diligently and continue improvement and potentially try and be a competitor. Boring as hell. Come in balls on fire. If it doesn't happen own that shit and move forward and contiinue to improve and work towards being a competitor.
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Originally Posted by
RiverCityDawg
Managing expectations with coach speak only matters to the weak minded mob. The irony is that the bravado coming in WAS coach speak to instill confidence. Doing otherwise and getting this result would have made folks like you feel even worse - "He doesn't have the confidence to coach in this league, he was beat the minute he showed up."
Isn't he now "managing expectations" with these comments? He looks like a fool running his mouth and then backtracking.
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So many upset because they bought into very unrealistic expectations and media pumping sunshine. Is Moorhead supposed to apologize because he wanted to build confidence in his players to build support going into a new job? That is all on you who actually thought we'd just waltz right in and already printed the SEC champ t-shirts.
It shouldn't be this big of a shocker how this season turned out. Especially as a State fan. Nothing will ever be easy for us. Yeah I expected a little better and to beat UK and UF but there was always a chance we shat the bed. Unfortunately we did.
Sucks that some of you already had your seat picked out in ATL. Again, there is absolutely no one else to blame except yourself. If you argue with that you are in denial. Plain and simple.
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Originally Posted by
Jack Lambert
I feel like I am in a time loope with the Coach 34 vs Stands.
This made me laugh!

Originally Posted by
RiverCityDawg
Managing expectations with coach speak only matters to the weak minded mob. The irony is that the bravado coming in WAS coach speak to instill confidence. Doing otherwise and getting this result would have made folks like you feel even worse - "He doesn't have the confidence to coach in this league, he was beat the minute he showed up."
This is correct. Mullen is a master at manipulating the fanbase (MSU's and Florida's) to his way of thinking. He did it for years here, to the point, that posters on this site firmly believe we'd be 10-0 or 9-1 right now if he was the coach. He has the Florida fanbase thinking their lucky to have him now because he inherited a rag tag bunch of players at UF (which is not the case) and overachieved this year (offense under him has improved).
Moorhead is refreshing because he doesn't "coach speak" nearly as much as Mullen does. The issue at hand is that we have a fanbase that thrives on believing everything that comes out of the coach's mouth and takes it as gospel truth.
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Originally Posted by
StateDawg44
So many upset because they bought into very unrealistic expectations and media pumping sunshine. Is Moorhead supposed to apologize because he wanted to build confidence in his players to build support going into a new job? That is all on you who actually thought we'd just waltz right in and already printed the SEC champ t-shirts.
It shouldn't be this big of a shocker how this season turned out. Especially as a State fan. Nothing will ever be easy for us. Yeah I expected a little better and to beat UK and UF but there was always a chance we shat the bed. Unfortunately we did.
Sucks that some of you already had your seat picked out in ATL. Again, there is absolutely no one else to blame except yourself. If you argue with that you are in denial. Plain and simple.
Yes, totally our fault. What made us think we should average more than 4 points a game against Kentucky, LSU, Florida, and Alabama? I mean, more than one touchdown in those 4 SEC games combined is really asking a lot!
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These comments cause me to lose a lot of respect for Joe. What happened to no one rises to low expectations.
Surely this type of clumsy public comment does not aid recruiting.
I think this is a reaction to what he is hearing from critics and he needs to grow a thicker skin.
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Shit happens. I went to school when this guy was our coach so im not really bothered.
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