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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
We still have a chance at 8-9 wins
Call me crazy but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say we don't get 9 wins. If I'm AD I let Joe know he's not getting fired at the end of the year, but that the product on the field is unacceptable. He doesn't get fired this year, but he's on the hot seat starting day 1 of next season if he doesn't get things turned around in the final half of this season.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Really wish the Neal Brown obsession would leave this board. Dude lost to LIBERTY.
So you want Liberty's head guy?
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Do you give Moorhead an ultimatum, bowl game or bust? Is getting the Egg Bowl a must win game?
Knowing next year is a down cycle year with LSU and Bama at home which means it is harder to win 8 games, does Joe have to win 8 next year with us losing some guys to the NFL?
Do you already put out feelers and get someone like Neal Brown lined up in case we end up 5-7?
There seems to be zero big time programs looking at changing at this current time also. Last year was a horrible time to look for a coach even though we got a great one on paper.
Nothing.
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I would do nothing other than let it be known this is not our "culture". I am still a believer that everyone on here is going a bit overboard on this stuff. Moorhead will get it adjusted. Moorheads offense when understood will work. Moorheads scheme is not the issue. Grasping and executing the scheme with talent is. Moorhead will figure it out with time. Sucks it hasn't already been bought into, but sometimes this takes time. Having the entire week off prior to LSU should have helped get back to basics, but it was squandered apparently. Seems like our team is still 4 games away from it clicking, but I have faith it will.
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Originally Posted by
DawgFromOxford
Call me crazy but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say we don't get 9 wins. If I'm AD I let Joe know he's not getting fired at the end of the year, but that the product on the field is unacceptable. He doesn't get fired this year, but he's on the hot seat starting day 1 of next season if he doesn't get things turned around in the final half of this season.
I think of the Bama game similar to Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber, there is less than 1% of a chance So there is a chance. 8 wins is still pretty much on the table and 7 has a good shot of happening. 8 would still be tied with Mullen's 2nd best record only to the 2014 which is one of our best ever.
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Go to the sideline and start calling the offensive plays. Have him sit by the water cooler and watch until he is so emasculated he quits.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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I's be nice and just tell good coaches adapt to the players he has until he get the players he wants.
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I haven't read this entire thread yet, but how in the hell can we fire a coach after 1 year? What message does that send to other coaches? We have to give him at least 2, but no more.
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Originally Posted by
BHildreth3
I haven't read this entire thread yet, but how in the hell can we fire a coach after 1 year? What message does that send to other coaches? We have to give him at least 2, but no more.
People making millions don't usually need "messages" they understand expectations.
Last edited by Leroy Jenkins; 10-26-2018 at 04:48 PM.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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Originally Posted by
BHildreth3
I haven't read this entire thread yet, but how in the hell can we fire a coach after 1 year? What message does that send to other coaches? We have to give him at least 2, but no more.
Would you have given Peter Sirmon 2 years? Why should there be a difference for head coaches? I'll admit that it would be rare but rarely do new coaches walk into such a good situation.
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Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
Would you have given Peter Sirmon 2 years? Why should there be a difference for head coaches? I'll admit that it would be rare but rarely do new coaches walk into such a good situation.
Yeah not as many examples of a winning team and a coaching change from outside that system because coach left in P5. I guess Ron Zook got 3 years so we have that to look forward to.*** Miles was a positive transition. Smart dropped some, 2 game swing with 2 one point loses, but the scoring numbers on both sides of the ball were not close to this drastic either, like our offense. Lane Kiffin for Pete Carroll - blah, but sanctions were a huge part of that. Fuentes at VT kind of a struggle this year but positive his first 2 years. Bobby P has been a drop from Charlie Strong.
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Originally Posted by
Anonymous
If we let him go after year 1 you might as well light the stadium on fire.
There is legitimately nothing that could be more damaging to our Athletic Department.
Also, I'm not sure it's possible to miss a bowl game. We could line up and run the ball every snap and roll Ole Miss. People underestimate just how horrible their defense is.
Dude, we would be undefeated right now if we would do that. Problem is, we will throw 30 passes against them and they will beat our ass.
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I would sit him down and let him talk about what he thinks is causing the problems. I would then handle him based 100% on how he answers those questions. If he understands the problem and presents a viable solution, he gets to stay. Otherwise, he better win some big games down the stretch.
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Today you tell your coach good luck and at the end of the year you make a hard decision.
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Originally Posted by
BHildreth3
I haven't read this entire thread yet, but how in the hell can we fire a coach after 1 year? What message does that send to other coaches? We have to give him at least 2, but no more.
It doesn’t send any message to the good coaches but the bad ones will probably stay away. We fans aren’t the only ones to notice an egregious misuse of our talents...a lot of good coaches have noticed this also.
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Originally Posted by
Bodaski
I sit down with Joe and ask him what can I do as your boss/AD to give you all that you need to be successful. I would tell him he's still "my man" to lead this program. If he feels like he may have made a mistake on any hires I would let him know I'll be in his corner. The guy needs to have success on the field, but he needs us to at least give him a chance. I remember Croom beat Nick Saban too. That seems to have worked out pretty good don't you think. All the bull crap about firing JM is ridiculous. The guy needs our support and a chance to redeem himself. We are better than that I would hope. Thank goodness some of our fans are perfect in what you do and never make a mistake. I wasn't perfect and made mistakes but thank goodness others believed in me and stayed the course.
Amen Bodaski! Hope you're well! You now how this board is fire 'em at first issue. They don't realize how many families this impacts. People lose their livelihood, they have to move, if they are lucky enough to find another job. Children are jerked out of schools, losing friends thy may never see again.
Also, how incompetent do we look hiring and firing a man after 1 year, that's comparable to the University of Tennessee, the laughing stock of the SEC. Let's all get behind this man and this program and support it like we should as alums and fans need to do!
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Barring off-field scandal, there's simply no way we can fire a HC after 1 season. We'd be a toxic program for any up and coming coach.
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You guys saying that we will become a toxic program if we fire moorehead are wearing blinders. If we fire him, it is because this dumpster-fire gets out of control. The next coach will face much lower expectations than what Moorehead inherited. They will automatically get more time to prove themselves and so it will make a much better scenario for a young coach wanting to build his own program. In business, you buy stock when there’s blood on the floor.
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Like I have posted before. We had a lot of interest in the job. Cohn was mystified by joe in the interview and made the hire. It was an awkward hire day one. Now here is an important fact so pay attention to those who A think we can?t fire him after one year and B those think we can?t attract another guy. Coaches knew the talent we had returning and coaches know what a shitty job joe has done. We will however have to probably offer a 4 year contract guaranteed with a substantial buyout. I?m ok with that because I?m of the opinion the next guy we hire will be the right guy.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgfan77
Like I have posted before. We had a lot of interest in the job. Cohn was mystified by joe in the interview and made the hire. It was an awkward hire day one. Now here is an important fact so pay attention to those who A think we can?t fire him after one year and B those think we can?t attract another guy. Coaches knew the talent we had returning and coaches know what a shitty job joe has done. We will however have to probably offer a 4 year contract guaranteed with a substantial buyout. I?m ok with that because I?m of the opinion the next guy we hire will be the right guy.
Why do you think the next hire will be the right one?
If not Moorhead, who should Cohen have hired?
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