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At this point I don't care who plays qb. Put Key in, if he sucks put Mayden in, if he sucks put Logan Burnett in, and on and on.
Watching the D play their ass off and the offense can't get out of its on way is frustrating as hell.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
If...if... Key comes into the A&M game and makes better decisions, better reads and better throws than Fitz, and we beat A&M, this board will melt.
We've been told by several around here that Key is totally lost in this offense. And then I look at Fitz Saturday night and think "And so is he."
I won't melt. I'll be glad we scored some damn points.
I'm just saying everyone wants to blame Fitz ... he handles the ball each snap.
But on so many plays an Olineman just totally screws up an assignment, a RB doesn't pick up a blitz, 2 WRs run routes ending up about 5 yds apart, etc. There is so much confusion on possible passing plays, whether RPO or designed, it is unreal.
And all y'all wanna blame it JUST on Fitz, not the head man in charge of this crapfest.
This is what Wyatt explained today on Bo Bounds, and it's what I've seen in the 2 games (FL & LSU) that I rewatched (3 and 2 times respectively) while rewinding repeatedly to make sure what was happening on each play.
If all of that happens when Key is in there ... you'll get the same results.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
He's worst than lost.
Damn.
And none of the other QBs show a pulse running Joe's offense?
Schrader starts next year if all this is true. Hell, I bet Joe has already told him he's starting next year.
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Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
He's worst than lost.
After rewatching that bullshit, sadly this isn't only on Fitz. The whole damn bunch is confused. The receivers can't read defense to understand which routes to run, Fitz can't keep up with protections or read a defense at depth. The oline wasn't awful but I don't quite understand exactly what they are doing technically. Bucky help me out here.
But no one is on the same page, it's a malfunctioning machine zero continuity even in the run game.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
I won't melt. I'll be glad we scored some damn points.
I'm just saying everyone wants to blame Fitz ... he handles the ball each snap.
But on so many plays an Olineman just totally screws up an assignment, a RB doesn't pick up a blitz, 2 WRs run routes ending up about 5 yds apart, etc. There is so much confusion on possible passing plays, whether RPO or designed, it is unreal.
And all y'all wanna blame it JUST on Fitz, not the head man in charge of this crapfest.
This is what Wyatt explained today on Bo Bounds, and it's what I've seen in the 2 games (FL & LSU) that I rewatched (3 and 2 times respectively) while rewinding repeatedly to make sure what was happening on each play.
If all of that happens when Key is in there ... you'll get the same results.
These guys know one offense and that coach is gone.
Moorhead has done an abysmal job of installing his offense. And I don't think he has what it takes to be a SEC head coach. He's in over his head.
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
After rewatching that bullshit, sadly this isn't only on Fitz. The whole damn bunch is confused. The receivers can't read defense to understand which routes to run, Fitz can't keep up with protections or read a defense at depth. The oline wasn't awful but I don't quite understand exactly what they are doing technically. Bucky help me out here.
But no one is on the same page, it's a malfunctioning machine zero continuity even in the run game.
As much of a Fitz homer as I am, I rewatched kinda hoping it was ONLY Fitz. But it ain't. And go rewatch the FL game. Fitz actually played pretty damn good and got ZERO help for the most part. Crucial mistakes by others killed drives in that game.
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The X factor here is that Slomo sucks as a head coach and is more lost than any player on the team. Has Fitz sucked, absolutely, but it all starts at the top. He did a shit job of installing the offense. Nobody has an F’n clue what’s going on
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Originally Posted by
GreenheadDawg
The X factor here is that Slomo sucks as a head coach and is more lost than any player on the team. Has Fitz sucked, absolutely, but it all starts at the top. He did a shit job of installing the offense. Nobody has an F’n clue what’s going on
I wonder if Joe starts back over at square one and reinstalls the offense in the spring?
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
I wonder if Joe starts back over at square one and reinstalls the offense in the spring?
If a few on this board will let him survive at least through the TAMU game then he possibly will. Right now it is really watered down. I think the only thing Fitz is comfortable with is a designed quarterback room.
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Originally Posted by
chef dixon
Your golden boy Fitzgerald in SEC play.
No QB has ever not been benched for a stretch like that.
Croomhead needs to get his head out of his ass and make a change.
Fitz will be the man.
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Originally Posted by
Coach007
Fitz will be the man.
The man to lose to aTm, Arkansas and Ole Miss. You want to still win 7 games this year better get on board the Key train.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Seemed like half this board wanted Key to start during the offseason. Where are all you now? Key set like a dozen school records vs SFA. He threw the ball away several times which hurt his completion % but there is NOTHING about that game that showed he can't run the offense better than 19 yards 4 picks Fitz right now. Unbelievable that some STILL don't want Fitz benched at this point. One being our dumbass stubborn head coach.
There was nothing in Lafayette game that said Fitz couldn't either
Don't get me wrong, I want KT to start Saturday. Why not? Can't be worse. But I'm not expecting better.
Crap games mean nothing. Fitz looks great in them too. And KT didn't look all that accurate in the SFA games. He's stats looked great, but if you watched it he didnt look nearly as good
Last edited by deadheaddawg; 10-23-2018 at 12:33 AM.
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Originally Posted by
deadheaddawg
There was nothing in Lafayette game that said Fitz couldn't either
Don't get me wrong, I want KT to start Saturday. Why not? Can't be worse. But I'm not expecting better.
Crap games mean nothing. Fitz looks great in them too. And KT didn't look all that accurate in the SFA games. He's stats looked great, but if you watched it he didnt look nearly as good
He looked fine. He certainly didn't look bad to the point he can't ever see the field no matter how terrible Fitz keeps on playing which is exactly what's going on right now. And I see that you do want to see him start. Just saying. It's gotten absurd with Key for some people. It's like the stink of Fitz and Moorhead has somehow rubbed off on Key in people's minds. Even Mayden too. They are ready to completely throw away both backups and give the starting job to a senior in high school right now. It's absurd logic.
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What were Fitz's passing stats the last two years? They weren't bad at all.
What's different this year that makes him so ineffective?
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
The man to lose to aTm, Arkansas and Ole Miss. You want to still win 7 games this year better get on board the Key train.
Your expectations are pretty high for Key. What makes you think he's gonna come right in and be so great?
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Your expectations are pretty high for Key. What makes you think he's gonna come right in and be so great?
I don't think he's necessarily going to be all-SEC great or anything I just think he'll be able to read the most obvious of blitzes and complete 8 yard passes. Both of which Fitz is unable to do right now. LSU had their LB blitzing uncovered off the edge and Fitz didn't even look at him once till he was grabbing him for the sack. He didn't even look to the right side of the field AT ALL and that was the side were LSU was obviously blitzing the LB with. He's in shell shock or has a concussion or something because he's not picking up the most obvious of all blitzes and he's missing wide open check down options every single pass. Florida safety blitzed straight up the middle and Fitz's appeared to be looking straight at him yet did nothing to get out of his way for the game ending sack. I don't know how it can be anymore obvious that Fitz needs to take a few series/games/rest of the season off.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
I don't think he's necessarily going to be all-SEC great or anything I just think he'll be able to read the most obvious of blitzes and complete 8 yard passes. Both of which Fitz is unable to do right now. LSU had their LB blitzing uncovered off the edge and Fitz didn't even look at him once till he was grabbing him for the sack. He didn't even look to the right side of the field AT ALL and that was the side were LSU was obviously blitzing the LB with. He's in shell shock or has a concussion or something because he's not picking up the most obvious of all blitzes and he's missing wide open check down options every single pass. Florida safety blitzed straight up the middle and Fitz's appeared to be looking straight at him yet did nothing to get out of his way for the game ending sack. I don't know how it can be anymore obvious that Fitz needs to take a few series/games/rest of the season off.
I hope you right ... we need some kind of spark.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
Seemed like half this board wanted Key to start during the offseason. Where are all you now? Key set like a dozen school records vs SFA. He threw the ball away several times which hurt his completion % but there is NOTHING about that game that showed he can't run the offense better than 19 yards 4 picks Fitz right now. Unbelievable that some STILL don't want Fitz benched at this point. One being our dumbass stubborn head coach.
I have a feeling that Key is gonna make Croomhead look really bad for not playing him earlier. There is no way he can be as bad as Fitz. No way.
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Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
I have a feeling that Key is gonna make Croomhead look really bad for not playing him earlier. There is no way he can be as bad as Fitz. No way.
As I've posted before Key has had longer in the system than Fitz. He can't be that much worse then Fitz. He just can't.
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Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
I have a feeling that Key is gonna make Croomhead look really bad for not playing him earlier. There is no way he can be as bad as Fitz. No way.
In fairness to Moorhead, even if were Key were better in practice, Fitz had to lose the job. I don't think it would have sat well with the fans otherwise.
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