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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    Javonta Payton decommits from Ole Miss. He's a JUCO WR but do we go after him?
    We need to go after any receiver available at this point. And that includes scouring the country for grad transfers. Leave no stone unturned to find people to catch the ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    I don't know if Mingo is the best WR or not, but Javeious Purvis is the best player in the state.
    I havent seen him play but I do know theres a big difference in who he plays vs who Mingo plays.

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    The best three Sr. skill players are in Rankin Co.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    We should offer Brooks Rayburn yesterday. Although I am iffier on him than I was before because Hancock has been terrible and Austin Williams hasnt done anything since the KSU game and he struggles blocking right now. Rayburn is faster than Williams was and he is playing in a veer offense so he is prolly a RS if we do take him, but the kid balled out at camp this year
    You are absolutely correct on Brooks, and he will take a RS. Brooks is better than Austin Williams, he's much faster, runs great routes and he will and can block willingly. His numbers are way down this year due to Hancock's inability to get him the ball and they run a basically a T offense from a "spread" look. Brooks season is over, he got rolled up last Friday and has hurt his ankle. His dad said they hope to get him well enough to play in the all star game but that might not be in play. They really like State but they are getting pretty worn out with the way that the staff is slow playing them.

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    Rayburn is not an SEC WR. He's just not. He can go to ULL or somewhere like that, but he's not an SEC WR. And I tried to tell people Austin Williams was a possession receiver at best, but some of the State media want to talk up guys before the season like they're difference makers and they're not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    You are absolutely correct on Brooks, and he will take a RS. Brooks is better than Austin Williams, he's much faster, runs great routes and he will and can block willingly. His numbers are way down this year due to Hancock's inability to get him the ball and they run a basically a T offense from a "spread" look. Brooks season is over, he got rolled up last Friday and has hurt his ankle. His dad said they hope to get him well enough to play in the all star game but that might not be in play. They really like State but they are getting pretty worn out with the way that the staff is slow playing them.
    Any clue on what the staff's reason for slow playing him is? Is it a speed or size issue? Generally curious, seems like we need all the help we can get at that position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Rayburn is not an SEC WR. He's just not. He can go to ULL or somewhere like that, but he's not an SEC WR.
    Have you seen him play or seen him at camp competing with the other players that are committed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Any clue on what the staff's reason for slow playing him is? Is it a speed or size issue? Generally curious, seems like we need all the help we can get at that position.
    Not sure why, they aren't even sure why, the staff is staying in contact weekly but still haven't offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    Have you seen him play or seen him at camp competing with the other players that are committed?
    I saw him last year when we started talking to him. He's more of the same of what we've got. He's similar to the WR at Taylorsville that's leading the state in receiving. He's too small and his speed isn't elite but it's good. Sorry, he can walk on but I wouldn't offer him a scholarship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    I saw him last year when we started talking to him. He's more of the same of what we've got. He's similar to the WR at Taylorsville that's leading the state in receiving. He's too small and his speed isn't elite but it's good. Sorry, he can walk on but I wouldn't offer him a scholarship.
    The old staff didn't talk to him at all, so I'm not calling bullshit but your mistaken on that. Getsy was the first one to contact him in this Feb.

    I saw his tool on D backs that are committed to us at camp and he looked head and shoulders better than our top WR commit at camp. I guess you only saw him against Brandon or Pearl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    The old staff didn't talk to him at all, so I'm not calling bullshit but your mistaken on that. Getsy was the first one to contact him in this Feb.

    I saw his tool on D backs that are committed to us at camp and he looked head and shoulders better than our top WR commit at camp. I guess you only saw him against Brandon or Pearl.
    Nah, we talked to him last year. They just didn't offer and never were going to. The last staff had some kind of contact with just about any decent recruit in MS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    Have you seen him play or seen him at camp competing with the other players that are committed?
    I’ve watched him play on Fridays twice and in 7on7 many times. He’s not an SEC receiver just like Austin Williams isn’t an SEC receiver. He has good speed, not elite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Nah, we talked to him last year. They just didn't offer and never were going to. The last staff had some kind of contact with just about any decent recruit in MS.
    Well, I know that most what on these boards is about 50% truth, but what your saying is 100% bullshit. I've know this kid since he was 7, his dad and I are friends and have coached our kids on the baseball field since they were 7. I can absolutely guarantee you that ******* staff didn't contact the kid in any way shape form or fashion. You can have your opinion about the kid, we can agree to disagree that fine but the rest is just not true.
    Last edited by Coursesuper; 10-23-2018 at 09:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Rayburn is not an SEC WR. He's just not. He can go to ULL or somewhere like that, but he's not an SEC WR. And I tried to tell people Austin Williams was a possession receiver at best, but some of the State media want to talk up guys before the season like they're difference makers and they're not.
    Damn...I could not disagree more with both those opinions. Rayburn and Austin will/would have good careers at State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    Should Rodrigues Clark, RB at Starkville High, get an offer? Would he walkon at MSU, if not?
    no and no. He has an offer an committed to Memphis. And no to Zach Edwards to while we are on the subject of shs players..

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    Seems we may have trouble filling out this class with worthy players. Should we just go all-in on the waiver wire/free agency (grad transfers)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cary Hudson's little bro View Post
    Damn...I could not disagree more with both those opinions. Rayburn and Austin will/would have good careers at State.
    No problem with you disagreeing. You're wrong, but no problem with it. Williams can't get open, can't catch consistently (none of them can), and can't block. And he's had a redshirt year in the program. He's never going to be more than possession guy. He's another kid that wasn't recruited by SEC schools. Our whole WR corp is that minus Guidry. And people wonder why we don't have good receivers? Then they want us to sign more of the same? Upgrading our WRs is a must. We can't continue down this same road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    No problem with you disagreeing. You're wrong, but no problem with it. Williams can't get open, can't catch consistently (none of them can), and can't block. And he's had a redshirt year in the program. He's never going to be more than possession guy. He's another kid that wasn't recruited by SEC schools. Our whole WR corp is that minus Guidry. And people wonder why we don't have good receivers? Then they want us to sign more of the same? Upgrading our WRs is a must. We can't continue down this same road.
    Not saying they are #1 SEC WR's but both could have a good SEC careers as the slot guy. They know how to get open. Our QB sucks at finding open receivers right now. It'll get better once we switch to KT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    Javonta Payton decommits from Ole Miss. He's a JUCO WR but do we go after him?
    Probably so. I would think that anyone that could potentially help us immediately would be of interest.

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    Payton looks the part but his play has been inconsistent. They’re different type players but Drummond might be better. I’d cut some WRs and take both I think. But we’ve got 2 jucos coming after next year. We need some stud HS WRs.

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