The Regression Of Fitz Is an Enormous Indictment On This Staff

[ShotgunDawg]

I could not DISAGREE with you more. First of all, he’s not a real QB. He has never been a good passer. He missed the entire spring to learn the new offense. The problem is really, Fitz is not the QB for this offense bc he’s ONE DIMENSIONAL. To lay this at the staff’s feet is complete bullshit. You can absolutely say that the playcalling is suspect at times, but Fitz is just not a good fit for this offense. Shotgun, you cannot improve a poor passer in fall practice alone, much less over the spring. Kylin Hill not getting touches is all Moorhead, and that I can agree with, but Fitz being a “solid” passer bc of a coaching change was never in the cards.

Thick, I cannot disagree with you more. He was a better passer under Mullen and the idea that KT isn't better than what we are seeing with Fitz is also ridiculous. KT had all Spring.

Something is wrong in the QB room. Maybe it's just a confidence problem but this is not what well coached players look like.

[ShotgunDawg]

Fitz was top 4 in qbr in sec every year under Mullen. Fitz is 11th this season, and will drop after tonight. Fitz has absolutely regressed under this staff

This.

Bitch about play calling all you want, but when the player develop begins to erode, you've got much bigger issues.

[DogsofAnarchy]

I could not DISAGREE with you more. First of all, he?s not a real QB. He has never been a good passer. He missed the entire spring to learn the new offense. The problem is really, Fitz is not the QB for this offense bc he?s ONE DIMENSIONAL. To lay this at the staff?s feet is complete bullshit. You can absolutely say that the playcalling is suspect at times, but Fitz is just not a good fit for this offense. Shotgun, you cannot improve a poor passer in fall practice alone, much less over the spring. Kylin Hill not getting touches is all Moorhead, and that I can agree with, but Fitz being a ?solid? passer bc of a coaching change was never in the cards.

A good coach will look at his talent and adapt. Hell....we ran a better offense in the Bowl Game and the Head Coach wasn’t even there. So just go back to what we were doing. Damn.

[Thick]

Thick, I cannot disagree with you more. He was a better passer under Mullen and the idea that KT isn't better than what we are seeing with Fitz is also ridiculous. KT had all Spring.

Something is wrong in the QB room. Maybe it's just a confidence problem but this is not what well coached players look like.

People on this board know my background, and I can absolutely tell you with 1000% confidence that you are FOS! Fitz just threw another interception when he should have run the ball. He makes bad decisions bc he’s trying to do something that he’s incapabale of doing. Moorhead’s offense is COMPLETELY different from Mullen’s. For a poor passing QB, who cannot and never has been able to throw the ball deep or even consistently period to excell in a pass oriented offense (Moorhead philosophy) is asinine. One more thing, Keyteon is struggling to pick up the offense, but fee free to keep running your mouth message board know it all!

[BeardoMSU]

People on this board know my background, and I can absolutely tell you with 1000% confidence that you are FOS! Fitz just threw another interception when he should have run the ball. He makes bad decisions bc he’s trying to do something that he’s incapabale of doing. Moorhead’s offense is COMPLETELY different from Mullen’s. For a poor passing QB, who cannot and never has been able to throw the ball deep or even consistently period to excell in a pass oriented offense (Moorhead philosophy) is asinine. One more thing, Keyteon is struggling to pick up the offense, but fee free to keep running your mouth message board know it all!

Boom.

[Thick]

This just in Fitz throws another interception.

[ShotgunDawg]

People on this board know my background, and I can absolutely tell you with 1000% confidence that you are FOS! Fitz just threw another interception when he should have run the ball. He makes bad decisions bc he’s trying to do something that he’s incapabale of doing. Moorhead’s offense is COMPLETELY different from Mullen’s. For a poor passing QB, who cannot and never has been able to throw the ball deep or even consistently period to excell in a pass oriented offense (Moorhead philosophy) is asinine. One more thing, Keyteon is struggling to pick up the offense, but fee free to keep running your mouth message board know it all!

And people here know my background as well and I know when I see hesitant throws and no confidence. Perhaps we are just saying the same thing and actually agree.

Don't play the "you know what you're talking about and I don't card" because I'll throw that shit right back at ya.

[BeardoMSU]

And people here know my background as well

Yeah, an OM graduate and ED spy!**

[dawgday166]

I could not DISAGREE with you more. First of all, he?s not a real QB. He has never been a good passer. He missed the entire spring to learn the new offense. The problem is really, Fitz is not the QB for this offense bc he?s ONE DIMENSIONAL. To lay this at the staff?s feet is complete bullshit. You can absolutely say that the playcalling is suspect at times, but Fitz is just not a good fit for this offense. Shotgun, you cannot improve a poor passer in fall practice alone, much less over the spring. Kylin Hill not getting touches is all Moorhead, and that I can agree with, but Fitz being a ?solid? passer bc of a coaching change was never in the cards.

Not defending Fitz tonight BUT ... how many empty back sets running a QB draw can we run in 1 night. Moorhead is intent on empty back sets with no motion. If we just run what we did against AU, we probably run for 250 or better tonight.

Moorhead is a Mooron. And I usually give coaches a chance, but he is intent on explosive plays. He cares not one iota for just moving the freaking chains. And there were NO adjustments coming out of half.

The one long run Fitz had was off a zone read .. ran it maybe twice after that for the whole REST of the night.

[Thick]

And people here know my background as well and I know when I see hesitant throws and no confidence. Perhaps we are just saying the same thing and actually agree.

Don't play the "you know what you're talking about and I don't card" because I'll throw that shit right back at ya.

The difference is I played in it, you were cheering in the stands. I know what goes on in practices, locker rooms, film sessions. You don’t, bc you go by what others tell you. I experienced for 5 years.

[Magician012]

Shotgun knows absolutely nothing about football. He’s an emotional fan who loves to post his opinion. Nothing wrong with that. But Fitz has been a trash QB ever since he has been here. Dan Mullen hid his deficiencies but Shorgun turns it into Fitz has regressed. No. Fitz has always been shit.

[ShotgunDawg]

The difference is I played in it, you were cheering in the stands. I know what goes on in practices, locker rooms, film sessions. You don’t, bc you go by what others tell you. I experienced for 5 years.

I'm not gonna get in a dick swinging contest with you. I respect your background. I just disagree with you while also having a background that would be credible as well.

[msstate7]

Shotgun knows absolutely nothing about football. He’s an emotional fan who loves to post his opinion. Nothing wrong with that. But Fitz has been a trash QB ever since he has been here. Dan Mullen hid his deficiencies but Shorgun turns it into Fitz has regressed. No. Fitz has always been shit.

And now Moorhead can't hide those "deficiencies" then. So we downgraded right? In 3 of our 4 sec games, we've scored 7 or less. Offensive guru

[Thick]

Not defending Fitz tonight BUT ... how many empty back sets running a QB draw can we run in 1 night. Moorhead is intent on empty back sets with no motion. If we just run what we did against AU, we probably run for 250 or better tonight.

Moorhead is a Mooron. And I usually give coaches a chance, but he is intent on explosive plays. He cares not one iota for just moving the freaking chains. And there were NO adjustments coming out of half.

The one long run Fitz had was off a zone read .. ran it maybe twice after that for the whole REST of the night.

The playcalling with certain personnel and formations are still head scratchers. I have no answer for you or anyone else. At this point though, regardless of KT’s understanding of the offense, could he do any worse?

[Goldendawg]

Not defending Fitz tonight BUT ... how many empty back sets running a QB draw can we run in 1 night. Moorhead is intent on empty back sets with no motion. If we just run what we did against AU, we probably run for 250 or better tonight.

Moorhead is a Mooron. And I usually give coaches a chance, but he is intent on explosive plays. He cares not one iota for just moving the freaking chains. And there were NO adjustments coming out of half.

The one long run Fitz had was off a zone read .. ran it maybe twice after that for the whole REST of the night.

It's spelled m-o-r-o-n. I beat Jo can spell it. He's worked at Fordham and Penn State.***

[UMCDawg16]

Shotgun knows absolutely nothing about football. He’s an emotional fan who loves to post his opinion. Nothing wrong with that. But Fitz has been a trash QB ever since he has been here. Dan Mullen hid his deficiencies but Shorgun turns it into Fitz has regressed. No. Fitz has always been shit.

Please repost this as a topic. WELL SAID.

[ShotgunDawg]

Shotgun knows absolutely nothing about football. He’s an emotional fan who loves to post his opinion. Nothing wrong with that. But Fitz has been a trash QB ever since he has been here. Dan Mullen hid his deficiencies but Shorgun turns it into Fitz has regressed. No. Fitz has always been shit.

Shotgun knows a decent amount about football, not as much as Thick, but Shotgun knows a good bit about players and evalution. Likely more than Thick.

[Magician012]

I never said Moorhead was an offensive genius. But Fitz hasn’t regressed. He’s always been a shit passer

[Thick]

I'm not gonna get in a dick swinging contest with you. I respect your background. I just disagree with you while also having a background that would be credible as well.

Cool, but understand this. We have a QB in the SEC that’s run for over 3k yards. Has ANYBODY EVER talked about him being a “good” passer? He’s one dimensional, and it’s not even debatable.

[BuckyIsAB****]

He has definitely went backwards. But the main reason is he is being asked to do more than he has ever been asked to do.