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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    DD went to Northwest but I don't think he's there anymore.

    You're thinking of Reggie Todd & outside of that 1 big half where he scored 3 TD's he's not done much of anything this season.
    I blame it on the vodka.

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    I understand that results matter, but we all know that these players all receive a host of benefits wherever they choose to go. The teams that are on the bottom are the ones that "give" the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt3467 View Post
    I understand that results matter, but we all know that these players all receive a host of benefits wherever they choose to go. The teams that are on the bottom are the ones that "give" the least.
    That's really not true. Sure, it happens, but it's rarely the determining factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Well, I've seen teams that are complete dumpster fires find a way to recruit to fix their weaknesses. We should be able to do that as well. Also, we had Heath an UA AA in our class last year and it looks like we lead for Mason and Harmon in the future so I think we will get it fixed eventually.

    Would have helped if we recruited better 2-3 years ago but there's nothing any of us can do about that at this point except watch the clown show.
    Harmon will be a stud. The kid can go get it. And yes, we lead for him but OM won't just let him go

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    2019 WR's - Whats the story USP's Kanoda Lewis? Is Brooks Rayburn going to score TD's on us when he signs with Southern Miss? Think he will take PWO spot from us?

    2020 WR's Malik Heath and E. Jai Mason would be a great class but I'm sure by then JoeMo can add one more 90+ talent.

    2021 WR's Antonio Harmon looks like a national recruit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    That's really not true. Sure, it happens, but it's rarely the determining factor.
    It's rarely the determining factor because most schools with a shot are in the same ball park on what they offer. But certainly if any SEC school just doesn't play the game at all, you'll see them get hammered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    It's rarely the determining factor because most schools with a shot are in the same ball park on what they offer. But certainly if any SEC school just doesn't play the game at all, you'll see them get hammered.
    Meh. The top talent is going where they've got proof of pro development and/or winning tradition. It carries more weight than a car or a few grand. And yes, everybody does something. We're at a huge disadvantage but it's not due to others giving kids money. It's because we're in MS and the system is rigged to help the blue blood programs. They get the tv time and recruiting bumps. They're taken care of because of the money they produce. Not the money they give kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Meh. The top talent is going where they've got proof of pro development and/or winning tradition. It carries more weight than a car or a few grand. And yes, everybody does something. We're at a huge disadvantage but it's not due to others giving kids money. It's because we're in MS and the system is rigged to help the blue blood programs. They get the tv time and recruiting bumps. They're taken care of because of the money they produce. Not the money they give kids.
    Very well said and extremely accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Meh. The top talent is going where they've got proof of pro development and/or winning tradition. It carries more weight than a car or a few grand. And yes, everybody does something. We're at a huge disadvantage but it's not due to others giving kids money. It's because we're in MS and the system is rigged to help the blue blood programs. They get the tv time and recruiting bumps. They're taken care of because of the money they produce. Not the money they give kids.
    Right, but there's also no doubt that the bigger programs have more money to give. Not necessarily to current guys visiting campus, but to the young prospects. What do I mean? Well schools don't just jump on these kids when they're Sr and Jrs in HS, they try to get the edge by doing a couple hundred $ handshakes to the studs in 8th grade. Sure 99% of those hand shakes are wasted money, but being the first is a huge advantage.

    "We noticed you before any of these other programs. We're the ones who got your moms car fixed 4 years ago when she couldn't pay, got your dad a job when nobody was hiring, and we're the ones who ask every week if you needed anything all these weeks. Sure those other guys are throwing money at you now, but remember who really has your back and believed in you all this time"

    A school with more obsessed fans and more money can get on more kids at a younger age. Less money = have to be picky, have to be picky = make sure they'll be a stud first, make sure they'll be a stud first = you're 2-3 years late. All else being equal (which it generally is, a lot of schools have nice facilities, campus, coaches, etc) a kid will pick the school that's been helping their family the longest.

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    Not true at all other than recruiting starts early. That’s fantasy fan BS. It’s an excuse and not fact. Yeah, you get a Cam deal here or there, but it’s rare. You get schools doing things but it’s not rampant huge money.
    Look at the blatant stuff OM was doing. Got them nothing.
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    Looking at the guys verbally committed, I hope they stay that way after the shitshow last night. MSU cannot compete in the SEC without talent on offense. It is NOT SEC-Level at present. I hope Jarrion Jones will get a shot at receiver, because he looks very good in that capacity at NWR. Unfortunately, he may be a better DB on Sundays, and with our luck that will be what he wants to focus on. Torbor dropped from a 4 to a 3-star as soon as he committed. Not sure what that's about. Kyziah Pruit showed out in his game vs Kosy, so he looks promising. Before the season started, I felt like we could flip one of the OM WR commits (Jackson or Jernigan). Now, we likely write those guys off. If Schrader sticks with his commitment, he will either make JoMo or break him, but the reality seems as though our current staff is only good enough to coach playmakers for success against the weak Big10 defenses not named tOSU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    Looking at the guys verbally committed, I hope they stay that way after the shitshow last night. MSU cannot compete in the SEC without talent on offense. It is NOT SEC-Level at present. I hope Jarrion Jones will get a shot at receiver, because he looks very good in that capacity at NWR. Unfortunately, he may be a better DB on Sundays, and with our luck that will be what he wants to focus on. Torbor dropped from a 4 to a 3-star as soon as he committed. Not sure what that's about. Kyziah Pruit showed out in his game vs Kosy, so he looks promising. Before the season started, I felt like we could flip one of the OM WR commits (Jackson or Jernigan). Now, we likely write those guys off. If Schrader sticks with his commitment, he will either make JoMo or break him, but the reality seems as though our current staff is only good enough to coach playmakers for success against the weak Big10 defenses not named tOSU.
    I'm pretty sure we could flip Jernigan if we wanted to. But that won't even be discussed until we crap out on the JUCO market if I had to guess.

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    We are still very very much in the game for Mingo. And hes the best WR in the state. Maybe the best player.

    Dean hasnt seen the competition Mingo has

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    We are still very very much in the game for Mingo. And hes the best WR in the state. Maybe the best player.

    Dean hasnt seen the competition Mingo has
    I've heard things are starting to trend more our way with Mingo. I know some people think because of our putrid offense this year that it's turning recruits off but some are looking at our situation as an opportunity to play early on offense, especially receivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cary Hudson's little bro View Post
    2019 WR's - Whats the story USP's Kanoda Lewis? Is Brooks Rayburn going to score TD's on us when he signs with Southern Miss? Think he will take PWO spot from us?

    2020 WR's Malik Heath and E. Jai Mason would be a great class but I'm sure by then JoeMo can add one more 90+ talent.

    2021 WR's Antonio Harmon looks like a national recruit.
    We should offer Brooks Rayburn yesterday. Although I am iffier on him than I was before because Hancock has been terrible and Austin Williams hasnt done anything since the KSU game and he struggles blocking right now. Rayburn is faster than Williams was and he is playing in a veer offense so he is prolly a RS if we do take him, but the kid balled out at camp this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    I've heard things are starting to trend more our way with Mingo. I know some people think because of our putrid offense this year that it's turning recruits off but some are looking at our situation as an opportunity to play early on offense, especially receivers.
    Mingo is our best WR on campus when he comes for visits. Which he has been to several of

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Mingo is our best WR on campus when he comes for visits. Which he has been to several of
    Agreed. We need him.

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    Javonta Payton decommits from Ole Miss. He's a JUCO WR but do we go after him?

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    Should Rodrigues Clark, RB at Starkville High, get an offer? Would he walkon at MSU, if not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    We are still very very much in the game for Mingo. And hes the best WR in the state. Maybe the best player.

    Dean hasnt seen the competition Mingo has
    I don't know if Mingo is the best WR or not, but Javeious Purvis is the best player in the state.

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