JoMo Showing Some Intensity on Dawgs Talk Tonight

[smootness]

Cool

Lulz

[Dawg61]

I'll just be honest, I don't believe you. I certainly don't know how you could hold that belief. We've seen Fitzgerald in Mullen's offense. Can you point me to any QB who has had a broken leg/ankle and come back an entirely different player? If it was a shoulder or arm injury, or even a knee, that's one thing. Not a break.

Also...why might Franks be playing way better than Fitz? I can't think of any potential reasons....

You and I just have different opinions on Fitz's digression. That's fine. I think it's mostly on the player. You think it's more on our coach. Also fine. Agree to disagree.

[smootness]

You and I just have different opinions on Fitz's digression. That's fine. I think it's mostly on the player. You think it's more on our coach. Also fine. Agree to disagree.

Fair enough. It just seems awfully coincidental that Fitz has regressed so much and Franks has improved so much. Seems weird for that to be primarily on both players.

I will ask this, though, and I genuinely want to know - what would it take for you to give up on Moorhead this year? Is it possible, or will you give him next year regardless?

[BrunswickDawg]

I'll just be honest, I don't believe you. I certainly don't know how you could hold that belief. We've seen Fitzgerald in Mullen's offense. Can you point me to any QB who has had a broken leg/ankle and come back an entirely different player? If it was a shoulder or arm injury, or even a knee, that's one thing. Not a break.

Also...why might Franks be playing way better than Fitz? I can't think of any potential reasons....

Hell, half the people on this board are talking about how Fitz seems to run tentative, is avoiding hits, has lost a step, or looks jumpy. If those are happening now, what makes you think he wouldn't be reacting that same way under Mullen? Dude almost had a career ending injury. That can change you.

It doesn't even take injury to 17 people up in the head. Chuck Knoblauch went from an All-Star 2nd baseman to not being able to throw to first base. Wasn't injured. Didn't change anything. His head just snapped and overnight lost an important athletic ability.

[StateDawg44]

Lulz

Just pointless to keep on. You are just looking to argue with any and everything and have been all week. Plain and simple. And that's not an opinion. There are about 3 or 4 (or more) threads you are in right now doing the same thing and plenty of people who just don't see eye to eye with you. Some do, but they just aren't obnoxious with it. For some reason you can't accept that and want to try to prove everyone wrong and you're right. I honestly don't care that much.

Have fun with that.

[Dawg61]

Fair enough. It just seems awfully coincidental that Fitz has regressed so much and Franks has improved so much. Seems weird for that to be primarily on both players.

I will ask this, though, and I genuinely want to know - what would it take for you to give up on Moorhead this year? Is it possible, or will you give him next year regardless?

I give Mullen the credit for Franks improved play no doubt. Mullen is very good with developing QBs. Maybe the best in the entire country at it. As far as me totally giving up on Moorhead that depends on how we play the next 7 games (obviously) and who we have guaranteed to step in and replace him. Are we firing a brand new coach with no clue who our next one is or do we have a proven winner locked up just waiting for us to hand them the keys. Everyone wanted Stansbury fired but nobody woulda wanted him fired if they knew Rick Ray was the replacement.

[I_Spy]

I can’t tell if it’s Fitz or if the oline has regressed
When a Fitz had time, he made throws but in that it seemed we had sacks or a bunch of 2 yd 3 yard type runs
But I think fitz is ok and when they do the new offense unrushed they seem to do well

But now, we gotta figure out how to beat auburn

[ShotgunDawg]

I can’t tell if it’s Fitz or if the oline has regressed
When a Fitz had time, he made throws but in that it seemed we had sacks or a bunch of 2 yd 3 yard type runs
But I think fitz is ok and when they do the new offense unrushed they seem to do well

But now, we gotta figure out how to beat auburn

It's both. The OL is being asked to block in ways they've never been asked and Fitz is extremely slow going through his reads. Thus, everything looks to be in slow motion.

Go watch a Penn State game on YouTube. You'll see how McSorely to everyone else on the offense does things faster. Tells you all you need to know.

[Lord McBuckethead]

Time to stop talking and start producing.

3 weeks ago.

[smootness]

Just pointless to keep on. You are just looking to argue with any and everything and have been all week. Plain and simple. And that's not an opinion. There are about 3 or 4 (or more) threads you are in right now doing the same thing and plenty of people who just don't see eye to eye with you. Some do, but they just aren't obnoxious with it. For some reason you can't accept that and want to try to prove everyone wrong and you're right. I honestly don't care that much.

Have fun with that.

Do you really feel I'm obnoxious? The same people are in all these threads, debating the same things.

[smootness]

Everyone wanted Stansbury fired but nobody woulda wanted him fired if they knew Rick Ray was the replacement.

I get that, but right now it seems like Mullen is the Stans in this analogy and Ray is Moorhead.

Let's hope we have our football Howland out there somewhere.

[StateDawg44]

Do you really feel I'm obnoxious? The same people are in all these threads, debating the same things.

I'm sure you aren't obnoxious as a person. That is not fair for me to assume because I know nothing about you so I can't say yes to the way you phrased your question.

The excessive amount of posts arguing how disappointed you are is though. MSU fans aren't happy right now for obvious reasons. I am one of them but you don't see me making sure every single person knows that. Do you go on rants and get as worked up when talking to co-workers about what's going on with the team? I just don't see the need in so many threads that are in no way meant to turn into anything other than an argument or to re-state that we aren't playing good. Hell make one thread and keep it all in there so all the miserable people can bitch with each other and come up with ways to solve world problems that will never come to fruition.

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For me, this board WAS a place that I lurked for a couple of years to just get tid bits of information that the media doesn't cover and I appreciate all of that and those that share what they know. But now, it's just a huge bitch fest and people starting the same threads over and over stating the obvious and going at each other and attacking the team. As if they don't want the same things we do. Or that all of the problems can be summed up into one and placed into a neat little basket on to our coach or coaching staffs lap. It just doesn't work like that as bad as people want to blame one thing or unit. It just has become unenjoyable because of all of the repetitive threads staging the same thing. You are in no way to blame for that and haven't done that single handedly. People seem to have no patience and don't want to accept the change that has taken place. Just irrational thoughts and posts with no alternative outcome other than what they think.

I don't want sunshine and daisies because that is hard to find right now. But it's not unreasonable to expect grown adults to accept what we have for what it is and just keep the toxicity to themselves. It's really not that hard to just take a step back and see what happens instead of being all up and arms and calling for people's heads.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

He looks really uncomfortable.

[hacker]

He looks really uncomfortable.

To me, he acted like he didn't really want to be there. Other things on his mind.

[Lord McBuckethead]

To me, he acted like he didn't really want to be there. Other things on his mind.

Yeah, he did have other things to do. I like Joe Moorhead. I think he is going to get this train moving. I know he can coach and call plays. If all he did was treat Aeris and Hill the same as he treated Saquon, the entire team would get rolling. Call designed runs. Let these linemen tee off. Let's start running downhill.

[ShotgunDawg]

To me, he acted like he didn't really want to be there. Other things on his mind.

I wouldn't want to be there either under the current circumstances.

Not sure Mullen ever wanted to be there

[I_Spy]

I’m saying as a fan base, we like to go on 4th and 1 on the right side of the field anyway and a lot of those rushed plays 3rd and short where fitz gets sacked or starts to run then changes just to get sacked, that’s what I mean by more a train or Hill anybody other than fitz really...in those moments. Aeris was good at getting those downs and fitz too but we’ve been a tad unsuccessful ‘lately’ with it - too slow, dead meat, not right play or something a bust -give it to someone else please

But I love fitz and his 10 yard gets you know what I mean

[I_Spy]

I saw someone almost come from the secondary and fitz was still in his frontal stance, not even crossways to pass - this may be a read but give it someone other than fitz

Or he faked a run so still in frontal stance and then he saw the blitzed from secondary and then tried to run, no set play and was sacked. Why not have just handed it off?

[Dawg61]

I wouldn't want to be there either under the current circumstances.

Not sure Mullen ever wanted to be there

I'd want to be there. Did you see that free food Jay gave him? Cheese grits with cream spinach, fried catfish and tomato gravy! Sign me up to answer some stupid questions on the radio for that.

[3rdGen]

This thread has turned into the limp bizkit song Break Stuff. It?s all about the he said she said bullshit!