I have heard a lot of reports coming out of the athletic office this week...

[msstate7]

So you think Merlin would be 3-2 with this talent?
Almost the exact same offensive players go from averaging 27 point per game to 6.5 ppg. Must be the talent, though.

Just their way of coping. Obviously our talent is worse than vandy since we're behind them in every sec offensive category. This has nothing to do with Moorhead. We have zilch to work with, and quite frankly 200 yds, 6.5 pts per game in sec games is really one of hell of a job by this staff. Our talent is that bad.

[Goldendawg]

Yeah but Longstreet was kind of against it

Yeah, Longstreet never spoke to Lee again. Hope that doesn't happen to some of our present FB "leaders" after this season plays out.

[Cooterpoot]

I?m done commenting on the coaches for at least two more games (minus the game thread). I?m praying it gets straight. I can?t handle football going the way basketball did.

[TrapGame]

Just to throw this out there:

Joe said tonight

We run the ball great, not a problem.

The pass blocking is a problem they are working on.

He talked about "culture" again. I get the impression he thinks we have a culture problem.

Now to the OP:

If true, could it be an OL mutiny against Johnson. Just a thought.

[dawgday166]

Just to throw this out there:

Joe said tonight

We run the ball great, not a problem.

The pass blocking is a problem they are working on.

He talked about "culture" again. I get the impression he thinks we have a culture problem.

Now to the OP:

If true, could it be an OL mutiny against Johnson. Just a thought.

Where'd you see Joe press conference?

[Commercecomet24]

Where'd you see Joe press conference?

Live on fb

[TrapGame]

Where'd you see Joe press conference?

Dawg Talk 105.9

I was driving to pick up some BBQ for the fam.

[Todd4State]

Just their way of coping. Obviously our talent is worse than vandy since we're behind them in every sec offensive category. This has nothing to do with Moorhead. We have zilch to work with, and quite frankly 200 yds, 6.5 pts per game in sec games is really one of hell of a job by this staff. Our talent is that bad.

Or could it possibly be a combination of both the players and the coaches? I have a feeling that's the real truth.

Yes the coaches are being hard headed. But you can't convince me that Fitz has put in the work he needed to during the offseason to be a championship caliber QB. Yes, he had to do rehab but he could have incorporated throwing to our receivers as part of that and killed two birds with one stone. Greg Eiland getting his ass beat literally every pass play is on Greg Eiland. Receivers dropping passes is on them.

And as far as the talent- our defense is elite. They have been as good as advertised. But I remember about 3-4 years ago complaining about OL and WR recruiting and look at those two groups right now. They look like, well a bunch of 2-3 star players. Compare that to our defense which is mostly made up of 4 and I think even one 5 star guy in there and only a couple of three star guys. On offense the only four star guys we are starting are Hill, Aeris, and Guidry. And not coincidentally two of those guys have been our best players on offense this year.

[Commercecomet24]

Just my 2 cents but if we have players mutinying after 2 bad games then we got some softies on this team. They need to get it fixed players and coaches. There have been plays to be made by the players that could have changed the outcome of these games. I understand everyone frustrated, I am too. I tell my kids all the time when you face adversity you can overcome it or quit and quitting not an option.

ETA if this indeed is happening

[dawgday166]

Live on fb

Dawg Talk 105.9

I was driving to pick up some BBQ for the fam.

Thanks guys.

[dawgday166]

Just my 2 cents but if we have players mutinying after 2 bad games then we got some softies on this team. They need to get it fixed players and coaches. There have been plays to be made by the players that could have changed the outcome of these guys. I understand everyone frustrated, I am too. I tell my kids all the time when you face adversity you can overcome it or quit and quitting not an option.

ETA if this indeed is happening

Good post.

[Todd4State]

Just to throw this out there:

Joe said tonight

We run the ball great, not a problem.

The pass blocking is a problem they are working on.

He talked about "culture" again. I get the impression he thinks we have a culture problem.

Now to the OP:

If true, could it be an OL mutiny against Johnson. Just a thought.

Unless we win out I don't see Johnson coming back. He may not come back even if we win out. I expect him to be a scapegoat.

[Leroy Jenkins]

I've led a soldier's life, and I've never seen anything as brutally clear as this. It's as if I can actually see the blue troops in one long, bloody moment, goin' up the long slope to the stony top. As if it were already done... already a memory. An odd... set... stony quality to it. As if tomorrow has already happened and there's nothin' you can do about it. The way you sometimes feel before an ill-considered attack, knowin' it'll fail, but you cannot stop it. You must even take part, and help it fail.

[dawgday166]

Or could it possibly be a combination of both the players and the coaches? I have a feeling that's the real truth.

Yes the coaches are being hard headed. But you can't convince me that Fitz has put in the work he needed to during the offseason to be a championship caliber QB. Yes, he had to do rehab but he could have incorporated throwing to our receivers as part of that and killed two birds with one stone. Greg Eiland getting his ass beat literally every pass play is on Greg Eiland. Receivers dropping passes is on them.

And as far as the talent- our defense is elite. They have been as good as advertised. But I remember about 3-4 years ago complaining about OL and WR recruiting and look at those two groups right now. They look like, well a bunch of 2-3 star players. Compare that to our defense which is mostly made up of 4 and I think even one 5 star guy in there and only a couple of three star guys. On offense the only four star guys we are starting are Hill, Aeris, and Guidry. And not coincidentally two of those guys have been our best players on offense this year.

I agree on the off-the-field work by Fitz, receivers, etc.

Defense isn't as good as "advertised" tho. They ain't bad, but being "not bad" wasn't how they were advertised. And talent wise, D line is good. Leo is not playing good and should be laying folks out. Thompson playing pretty good. Corners are really not playing good IMO. Abrams is good, Cole had bad game against FL and hasn't impressed me. McLaurin is half and half.

[Todd4State]

Just my 2 cents but if we have players mutinying after 2 bad games then we got some softies on this team. They need to get it fixed players and coaches. There have been plays to be made by the players that could have changed the outcome of these guys. I understand everyone frustrated, I am too. I tell my kids all the time when you face adversity you can overcome it or quit and quitting not an option.

ETA if this indeed is happening

Amen. And based on the past four years of watching these players I highly suspect that they are soft. Whether the OP is true or not. Losing to South Alabama, Losing an Egg Bowl at home to cost us a Sugar Bowl bid, crawfishing against Alabama repeatedly, losing the Egg Bowl last year, and then Kentucky and Florida this year. And then you have stuff like the players going off on Bob Carskadon because he said something about their beards when it was clearly something that was supposed to be good natured and then running smack on Kentucky and not backing it up. But the worst was the Egg Bowl last year when they allowed Ole Miss to get off cheap shot after cheap shot and did nothing about it. I'm sorry if someone is acting like they are peeing on our logo- I'm going to run over and pop the guy like the guy for the Cowboys that popped Terrell Owens for celebrating on their star.

Our football team needs to learn about cajones from our baseball team. Even LA who some on here ripped repeatedly- Ole Miss walks Mangum to get to him and he at least has the balls to say alright I'm going opposite field and wins the game. If it's Fitz- I guarantee he strikes out and then goes out partying with his beauty queen girlfriend.

[Todd4State]

I agree on the off-the-field work by Fitz, receivers, etc.

Defense isn't as good as "advertised" tho. They ain't bad, but being "not bad" wasn't how they were advertised. And talent wise, D line is good. Leo is not playing good and should be laying folks out. Thompson playing pretty good. Corners are really not playing good IMO. Abrams is good, Cole had bad game against FL and hasn't impressed me. McLaurin is half and half.

To me that just shows how unrealistic the expectations are. We're second in the SEC in total defense and are allowing 13 points a game. This despite our offense doing literally nothing the past two games meaning we haven't been able to pin our ears back at all. In this era of offense teams are going to make plays from time to time.

[TrapGame]

One of my coworker's best friends is a long time AD employee. I'll ask her to text her friend to see if this has made her ears. She's like a second mother to some of these players.

[Commercecomet24]

Amen. And based on the past four years of watching these players I highly suspect that they are soft. Whether the OP is true or not. Losing to South Alabama, Losing an Egg Bowl at home to cost us a Sugar Bowl bid, crawfishing against Alabama repeatedly, losing the Egg Bowl last year, and then Kentucky and Florida this year. And then you have stuff like the players going off on Bob Carskadon because he said something about their beards when it was clearly something that was supposed to be good natured and then running smack on Kentucky and not backing it up. But the worst was the Egg Bowl last year when they allowed Ole Miss to get off cheap shot after cheap shot and did nothing about it. I'm sorry if someone is acting like they are peeing on our logo- I'm going to run over and pop the guy like the guy for the Cowboys that popped Terrell Owens for celebrating on their star.

Our football team needs to learn about cajones from our baseball team. Even LA who some on here ripped repeatedly- Ole Miss walks Mangum to get to him and he at least has the balls to say alright I'm going opposite field and wins the game. If it's Fitz- I guarantee he strikes out and then goes out partying with his beauty queen girlfriend.

Strong post! Our baseball team could've easily quit with what happened last year but sucked up and overcame. Basketball team sucked it up too and turned their season around too. That was George Teague(Alabama)who knocked the piss out of Terrell Owens for that Star stunt.

[dawgday166]

To me that just shows how unrealistic the expectations are. We're second in the SEC in total defense and are allowing 13 points a game. This despite our offense doing literally nothing the past two games meaning we haven't been able to pin our ears back at all. In this era of offense teams are going to make plays from time to time.

So far we've played 1 dimensional offenses only in SEC. Go rewind the tape and look at how we had NO 3 & outs against a crappy FL offense that can't run the ball on anyone. How our CBs got their ass handed to them when FL WRs were blocking them. How Cole and Leo had multiple instances they could have laid the lumber ... and didn't. How our back 7 take bad angles all the time. And they're soft.

This D was touted as better than Bama's .. and it's not. And right now this is not the usual Bama D ... not as good. Talent is mostly there tho ... they're young.

ETA: KY is 71 in total O and FL is 93.

[BuckyIsAB****]

Some key players have voiced their concerns over the coaching this team has gotten offensively. From what I'm hearing there is dissention and is growing. I fear he has lost the team already. I wanted him to succeed but had my doubts from the beginning. I will be there Saturday but am not optimistic at all. I truly feel this season is going to spiral out of control. I heard Moorhead gets 2 years no matter what but if we go 0-8 in the SEC I'm not so sure now. Hailstate!

I have heard that the O coaches are soft and never hold the offensive players accountable. No intensity or accountability. And that practices are soft as charmin.

Makes sense that its the offensive coaches that are soft considering what we have seen on the field. Take it as just another post if you want but that is from a good source