?If you fire him after one year, nobody would take the job? - BS

[Dawgs31]

Can we put this to bed right now? 3 million a year and a SEC HC gig will always have the line out the door.

[Dawg61]

We aren't firing him after one year so what's the point.

[Dawgfan77]

Can we put this to bed right now? 3 million a year and a SEC HC gig will always have the line out the door.

Yup. But nobody seems to agree with us.

[yjnkdawg]

Can we put this to bed right now? 3 million a year and a SEC HC gig will always have the line out the door.

It ain't happening, but if it did, we wouldn't be able to attract anybody that Cohen, or you or me would want to be our head coach.

[Dawgs31]

We aren't firing him after one year so what's the point.

3-9, go to the unemployment line
4-8, you’ll never be great
5-7, choose a new profession
6-6, next year better be fixed
7-5, safely alive

[Todd4State]

Yup. But nobody seems to agree with us.

It would be surprising. Barring a Cannizaro type scandal.

[Todd4State]

It ain't happening, but if it did, we wouldn't be able to attract anybody that Cohen, or you or me would want to be our head coach.

At worst Hud would take it.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Can we put this to bed right now? 3 million a year and a SEC HC gig will always have the line out the door.

Not a single SEC level HC would jump for 3m. You'd have to grab a random unproven new G5 coach/not cream of the crop P5 coordinator. Top P5 coordinators and top G5 coaches can get 3m anywhere. Aranda and Neil Brown, for instance, could get 3M from a P5 school like it's nothing. And if our top choices are looking at 3m at State, or 3m at a different school, they'll pick the one that doesn't have to play 4 top 15 recruiters every year, and the one that will give them more than 1 year to win.

You'd have 1,000 applications, none of which would have much of a resume or hints they'd be good HCs. The next Saban may be in there but it's an absolute crapshoot, highly unlikely we come out with a good enough hire to keep the program from deteriorating.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

It ain't happening, but if it did, we wouldn't be able to attract anybody that Cohen, or you or me would want to be our head coach.

But you don't understand. We are Mississippi State. And we are distinctly special in how we can opperate because of reasons I can't tell you.

[msstate7]

It ain't happening, but if it did, we wouldn't be able to attract anybody that Cohen, or you or me would want to be our head coach.

Neal Brown would take it, and he'd be a massive upgrade

[Todd4State]

Not a single SEC level HC would jump for 3m. You'd have to grab a random unproven new G5 coach/not cream of the crop P5 coordinator. Top P5 coordinators and top G5 coaches can get 3m anywhere. Aranda and Neil Brown, for instance, could get 3M from a P5 school like it's nothing. And if our top choices are looking at 3m at State, or 3m at a different school, they'll pick the one that doesn't have to play 4 top 15 recruiters every year, and the one that will give them more than 1 year to win.

You'd have 1,000 applications, none of which would have much of a resume or hints they'd be good HCs. The next Saban may be in there but it's an absolute crapshoot, highly unlikely we come out with a good enough hire to keep the program from deteriorating.

The silver lining there is we have proven that we will go at least as high as 6 million to someone that is qualified.

[Maroonthirteen]

Can we put this to bed right now? 3 million a year and a SEC HC gig will always have the line out the door.

Bullshit. We had a coach 9 years and he left the cupboard semi stocked. Not many people wanted it then.

[Dawg61]

3-9, go to the unemployment line
4-8, you’ll never be great
5-7, choose a new profession
6-6, next year better be fixed
7-5, safely alive

He doesn't have 5 losses yet.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

At worst Hud would take it.

Why do people act like Hudd is a decent fall back plan? Maybe as an interim he'd be a fine in game coach, but as the full time HC he'd be bad. Dude is a failed G5 coach, and yet people here haven't adjusted their 5 year old opinions on Hudd to the new facts.

The fact is Hudd is not a better hire than Joey Jones would be. If Hudd hadn't been here before this year we'd view him as we do JJ, namely, by the resume.

"At worst Hudd would take it" = "at worst we get a failed G5 coach that's not even an X's and O's guy". That's pretty bad.

[Todd4State]

Why do people act like Hudd is a decent fall back plan? Maybe as an interim he'd be a fine in game coach, but as the full time HC he'd be bad. Dude is a failed G5 coach, and yet people here haven't adjusted their 5 year old opinions on Hudd to the new facts.

The fact is Hudd is not a better hire than Joey Jones would be. If Hudd hadn't been here before this year we'd view him as we do JJ, namely, by the resume.

"At worst Hudd would take it" = "at worst we get a failed G5 coach that's not even an X's and O's guy". That's pretty bad.

Hud is the floor in this situation. And not a bad floor.

[msstate7]

Why do people act like Hudd is a decent fall back plan? Maybe as an interim he'd be a fine in game coach, but as the full time HC he'd be bad. Dude is a failed G5 coach, and yet people here haven't adjusted their 5 year old opinions on Hudd to the new facts.

The fact is Hudd is not a better hire than Joey Jones would be. If Hudd hadn't been here before this year we'd view him as we do JJ, namely, by the resume.

"At worst Hudd would take it" = "at worst we get a failed G5 coach that's not even an X's and O's guy". That's pretty bad.

Hud is better than Moorhead. Don't want either though

[TrapGame]

The only way Joe remotely gets canned is if we go 3-9 losing to a far lesser talented La Tech, a god awful Ark and a defensively retarded OM. To me I think a semi-plausible case can be made. But, I doubt we fire Joe after a year. Now, next year, if he's still clueless and the offense is sputtering around like a 1982 Toyota and it's a 4-8/5-7 season, he's gone.

[Dawgfan77]

Bullshit. We had a coach 9 years and he left the cupboard semi stocked. Not many people wanted it then.

That is wrong.
Cohn wanted to be the smartest guy in the room. It was a leap of faith with joe.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Neal Brown would take it, and he'd be a massive upgrade

I'm a big fan of him. I was shocked nobody took him last year after his 2nd 10 win season.

However, the fact he didn't have options last year doesn't mean we're ht only game in town this year. And is he gets a decent P5 offer this year that isn't us, why would he pick the one broke the precedent every school in the country follows by firing a coach after 1 year?

Guys, remember that LSU lost to Troy last year after being blown out by us. Every LSu forum was melting as bad as we are. They didn't fire him and now are pretty good. Game 5 results are not proof of long term failure. I know I'll get roasted and I can't find any positives about Moorhead either, but it is possible giving him a year 2 will work out.

[msstate7]

I'm a big fan of him. I was shocked nobody took him last year after his 2nd 10 win season.

However, the fact he didn't have options last year doesn't mean we're ht only game in town this year. And is he gets a decent P5 offer this year that isn't us, why would he pick the one broke the precedent every school in the country follows by firing a coach after 1 year?

Guys, remember that LSU lost to Troy last year after being blown out by us. Every LSu forum was melting as bad as we are. They didn't fire him and now are pretty good. Game 5 results are not proof of long term failure. I know I'll get roasted and I can't find any positives about Moorhead either, but it is possible giving him a year 2 will work out.

LSU turned it around last year. They ended up winning 9 games