Arizona St Game

[StarkVegasSteve]

and you don't know football at all if you truly believe that.

Arizona State was a playoff team last year that pushed Texas to the edge in the playoff game. They could have easily beaten them and been the team that faced Ohio State in the championship game.

They lost one player of note and he wass a big piece in RB Scattebo but everyone is back on a top rated defense, he QB is picked to be a Heisman candidate and they have several good RB's.

Anyone saying this is a must win for us is either lying on purpose or knows nothing of them or us.

Yes, Our talent level has improved but they have equal or better talent and have been together for years and proven they play well together. If anything, it's a must win for them.

No it's a must win for us. You can not like and not think it's fair all day long, and by the way I agree with you. It's not fair to hold us to that standard that we HAVE to beat Arizona St. But the fact of the matter is we do. Look, unless your head has been buried in the sand for the last 19 months, our program has ZERO juice. None. Zilch. Nada. Beating Arizona St gives you that juice. It means you're going to get 4-0 and you'll be 4-0 when Tennessee comes to town. If that's the case, DWS will be a zoo. It will be wild in there. You beat them and get to 5-0 and you just have to find ONE MORE WIN and you're in a bowl. And we desperately need a bowl game.

Now take the inverse of that, say we lose, that means AT BEST you're 3-1 going into Tennessee and out of all likelihood 3-2 coming out of it with A&M, Florida, and Texas. You'll be 3-5 coming out of that stretch and the season will be slipping through your grasp. At that point 3-9 looks a hell of a lot more likely than any other scenario. So at that point you'll have went 2-10 and 3-9 under Lebby with NO CONFERENCE WINS since October 21, 2023. Your program juice is gone and it will take you years to get it back. Because look, no one is going to take this job if you fire Lebby after 2 seasons after firing Arnett after 10 games. So if you don't fire Lebby, you'll have 40K in the stands and if you do it could be worse. Because you're not getting a sitting HC unless you take a chance on an up and coming G5 guy, who would have to completely rebuild the roster......yet again.

So should Arizona St be categorized as a must win or the most important game of the Jeff Lebby era? No. But it is. You need people to believe again.