Quote Originally Posted by Scared_Hitless View Post
You must be really young if you think any coach in our history wins those two games. Hate to break it to you but FL finished #7 and KY finished #12 that would be defined as two great teams by any measure. KY was during a monsoon where we faced our first adversity of the season. Joe and company got punched in the mouth and didn't adjust but don't diminish the team KY had because of our shortcomings. Mullen knew our team better than Joe and exploited it, he had 3-4 years with these players Joe had 6 months that is the main reason we lost to Florida. 2014 was a magical year climbing to #1 but in the end we still finished with 3 losses and blew our only shot at beating a Bama Team led by a converted RB named Blake Sims.

I am willing to give Joe time to bring in WRs and a QB that fit the passing mold he is striving for. If he fails well I am sure the board knows plenty of replacement candidates that would jump at the jump. Even though coordinators in P5 turned us down before Joe. Joe is bringing in better lineman, better WR, and better QB prospects than Dan. It will fall on development and our S&C staff going forward. Those are the two best aspects of Mullen running the show.
So how long you been watching MSU football? I didn't say MSU history, I said my lifetime.

If Jo can't figure out our talent out in 6 months then he ain't much of a coach. Follow your logic further, so Mullen's who he also had 6 months to figure out his new talent which was less than MSU yet he still beat Jo? Yes Mullen knew MSU but he didn't know what Jo would do, he also didn't know Shoop but yet we knew Grantham. So who had the advantage? At the end of the day we royally screwed the UF game.

Take the talent we had and put Mullen, JWS, Bellard and maybe even Felker and we win those games. I still like Jo and think he gets it done but we messed on ourselves in both games.

Yep we under finished in 2014 and many other years under Mullen.