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08-12-2019, 04:26 PM
#101
Junior Member

Originally Posted by
Coach007
Yeah.. we know you could have done better.... which Is why I encourage you to apply for the job.
I'm thinking Joe's 1st coaching staff he hired didn't work out like he was hoping it would. Plus, I don't think he realized Fitz was as poor of passer as he turned out to be. All of that had to play a part in cutting back on his offense a bunch. By doing that it took a lot of explosion out of our offensive game, which put more on the defense then you would want. Our defense was able to hold its end and more. I think we will see a difference in the offense this season. I'm willing to see if it plays out that way.
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08-12-2019, 09:41 PM
#102

Originally Posted by
msstate7
One of the world's great mysteries is how Mullen sucked so bad at recruiting, yet ended up with 3 1st rounders last season and a bunch more drafted players coming this year.
Mullen had ZERO '1st rounders' last season!
No Gators were selected in the opening round of the draft for the first time since 2012. Offensive tackle Jawaan Taylor, who was projected as a top-15 pick entering the round, has slid to Day 2 over apparent concerns about an offseason knee injury.
Coach34 .. "We're not hiring the ****ing Pirate at Miss State. GTFO"

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08-12-2019, 10:12 PM
#103

Originally Posted by
bulldawg28
That's a stupid move by a coach.
Oh I agree. It pissed me off at the time. It?s just an example of one HS coach hating Mullen. I?ve heard there were many.
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08-12-2019, 10:15 PM
#104
Todd Grantham blitzed 8 guys against Fitzgerald on 4th down against us Fitz had no clue it was coming. If he does its a game ending TD and Grantham is probably fired for that call. Thats how bad Fitzgerald was mentally at that point in the year. They didnt even cover our slot and nobody could have tackled him if he gets the ball.
I love Fitz to death, he was an absolute warrior and he deserves respect for that. But he was not a QB for this system at all
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08-12-2019, 10:19 PM
#105

Originally Posted by
BiscuitEater
Mullen had ZERO '1st rounders' last season!
No Gators were selected in the opening round of the draft for the first time since 2012. Offensive tackle Jawaan Taylor, who was projected as a top-15 pick entering the round, has slid to Day 2 over apparent concerns about an offseason knee injury.
He was talking the players recruited to us while Mullen was our coach. He didn’t recruit any of those Florida players that were draft eligible
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08-12-2019, 10:21 PM
#106
Who are those ?bunch more? being drafted this year? I don?t see many. Almost all our top draft picks are Juco guys too.
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08-12-2019, 10:25 PM
#107

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Who are those “bunch more” being drafted this year? I don’t see many.
Dantzler, Williams, Thompson, rivers
Maybes: gay, hill, autry, Cole
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08-12-2019, 10:37 PM
#108
Thompson isn’t leaving IMO. Neither is Gay. Hill would have to have a big year too.
Cole is a wait and see. Rivers and Williams are picks. Dantzler too barring injury.
Autry late maybe. But only a couple will go very high.
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08-12-2019, 10:43 PM
#109

Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Thompson isn’t leaving IMO. Neither is Gay. Hill would have to have a big year too.
Cole is a wait and see. Rivers and Williams are picks. Dantzler too barring injury.
Autry late maybe. But only a couple will go very high.
Basically then the only one you disagreed with me on is thompson. He's rated in the top 5 draftable ILBs by Phil Steele and Walterfootball. Obviously this doesn't mean he's a lock, but it certainly shows he's on the radar.
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08-12-2019, 10:49 PM
#110
He’s not a top 5 LB pick IMO. But we’ll see. I just don’t see a bunch of picks unless a lot goes right.
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08-12-2019, 11:26 PM
#111

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Confucius, forgive him... he has no idea you're nowhere close to anti-Moorhead. I think he's a little slow. Just pray for him
No joke. I?m as pro joe as anybody on here. Just happen to also think dan did one hell of a job here.
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08-13-2019, 03:38 AM
#112

Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
He was talking the players recruited to us while Mullen was our coach.
So, if Mullet deserves credit for 3 #1 defensive draftees, he also gets credit for an 8-5 (4-4) record, right?
Can't get credit for one and not the other.
Coach34 .. "We're not hiring the ****ing Pirate at Miss State. GTFO"

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08-13-2019, 06:16 AM
#113

Originally Posted by
BiscuitEater
So, if Mullet deserves credit for 3 #1 defensive draftees, he also gets credit for an 8-5 (4-4) record, right?
Can't get credit for one and not the other.
This is strange logic. Poster earlier said Mullen is a terrible recruiter, and I said there were 3 1st rounders on this team that Mullen recruited and signed. Are you disputing that Mullen recruited sweat, Simmons, and Abram or are you saying that none of them were talented until Moorhead got here?
Last edited by msstate7; 08-13-2019 at 07:19 AM.
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08-13-2019, 07:20 AM
#114

Originally Posted by
BiscuitEater
So, if Mullet deserves credit for 3 #1 defensive draftees, he also gets credit for an 8-5 (4-4) record, right?
Can't get credit for one and not the other.
Actually, concerning players drafted that he actually recruited he definitely gets credit for that. You are trying to blend two totally different things to make an argument because you got called out. He definitely can get credit for one, the players we signed while he was here that were just drafted and not the record last season since he wasn’t coaching this team.
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08-13-2019, 07:35 AM
#115

Originally Posted by
BiscuitEater
Mullen had ZERO '1st rounders' last season!
No Gators were selected in the opening round of the draft for the first time since 2012. Offensive tackle Jawaan Taylor, who was projected as a top-15 pick entering the round, has slid to Day 2 over apparent concerns about an offseason knee injury.
Also the DE slid from the projected 1st round to the 4th round over his NFL combine interviews. I don't really blame Mullen for either of those guys slides. He wasn't there long enough to do anything about that guy and an injury can happen. Simmons should have been a top 5-10 pick if not for his injury.
Last edited by Tbonewannabe; 08-13-2019 at 07:40 AM.
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08-13-2019, 07:39 AM
#116

Originally Posted by
msstate7
This is strange logic. Poster earlier said Mullen is a terrible recruiter, and I said there were 3 1st rounders on this team that Mullen recruited and signed. Are you disputing that Mullen recruited sweat, Simmons, and Abram or are you saying that none of them were talented until Moorhead got here?
The only one of those guys really highly recruited was Simmons. Mullen's staff did a great job getting him along with Sweat and Abram. There was just some positions that Mullen sucked at recruiting.
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08-13-2019, 08:01 AM
#117

Originally Posted by
bobcat91
Not his fault we were 2 dropped passes away from a 10 win season. He had a few head scratchers but was set up for a top 10 season.
Everyone talks about Moorhead wasting a team that held opponents to 12 TD's. Counting the bowl game, it was 15, which was still excellent.
However, State's defense gave up 4 TD's to Kentucky and 3 to Iowa. So while the defense was excellent as a whole last season, they didn't help us vs Kentucky or Iowa.
We scored 22 points vs Iowa, which should have been enough. We had 342 yards vs Iowa, which should have been enough.
We actually finished the second half of the season well on offense, except for Alabama.
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08-13-2019, 08:11 AM
#118

Originally Posted by
MedDawg
Everyone talks about Moorhead wasting a team that held opponents to 12 TD's. Counting the bowl game, it was 15, which was still excellent.
However, State's defense gave up 4 TD's to Kentucky and 3 to Iowa. So while the defense was excellent as a whole last season, they didn't help us vs Kentucky or Iowa.
We scored 22 points vs Iowa, which should have been enough. We had 342 yards vs Iowa, which should have been enough.
We actually finished the second half of the season well on offense, except for Alabama.
Vs Kentucky, at the 9:43 left, Kentucky had 203 total yards. It was 14-7, and the defense got our offense the ball at the Kentucky 47.
Iowa had a 13-yard td drive and a 33-yard td drive.
Blaming the defense for those losses is questionable at best
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08-13-2019, 08:14 AM
#119

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Vs Kentucky, at the 9:43 left, Kentucky had 203 total yards. It was 14-7, and the defense got our offense the ball at the Kentucky 47.
Iowa had a 13-yard td drive and a 33-yard td drive.
Blaming the defense for those losses is questionable at best
UK was definitely a group effort and group loss. All the way across the board and even up to the coaches. There were a ton of penalties on D and offense seemed rattled from the get-go.
I'm not one to blame the coaches for the overall finish of last year at all. That game we seemed lost and had no answers for anything.
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08-13-2019, 08:17 AM
#120

Originally Posted by
MedDawg
Everyone talks about Moorhead wasting a team that held opponents to 12 TD's. Counting the bowl game, it was 15, which was still excellent.
However, State's defense gave up 4 TD's to Kentucky and 3 to Iowa. So while the defense was excellent as a whole last season, they didn't help us vs Kentucky or Iowa.
We scored 22 points vs Iowa, which should have been enough. We had 342 yards vs Iowa, which should have been enough.
We actually finished the second half of the season well on offense, except for Alabama.
342 yards?? Hahahah. It's pretty bad when you say that's enough. But based on The other 4 shit shows, yeah I guess it was....
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