John Emery with the curveball..

[Jarius]

But but but I thought everyone said LSU ..
this isn?t over . By a long shot

I?m sure he was leaning to LSU when every recruiting expert out there started crystal balling him to LSU. Just like you don?t want people calling you out when shit changes with recruits, you could return the favor.

[dantheman4248]

Not everything in life is factored by purely money.

Honestly, if his goal is to get to the NFL, he stands a way better chance of doing that by going to Georgia. He gets the competition to force himself to be better. The pedigree of knowledge offered by the school that has a solid history of running backs to the NFL. Plus he won?t be worn down by too many carries by the time he gets to the NFL.

There is a whole list of factors that can sway his decision. I?m sorry, but you?re looking through Maroon-colored glasses if you think he has no reason to go to Athens over Starkville other than money.

[Irondawg]

Here's where we got into trouble with Emery. The guys we pay for information kept talking about how he was handling his recruitment much differently than other 18 year old kids. He was studying everything with the program, the coaches. That he wanted to be the only back in the class, that he only wanted to make one commitment, etc. Then we had the July 7 date and we were led to believe that was going to be us. So it was all coming together, we were about to land an out of state stud RB that didn't like LSU for a few reasons and he was going to be solid.

Then he went and showed out at the camp and got boosted to 5 star. Suddenly it's a circus. Remember, nothing changed in how good the kid was, nothing changed with any school recruiting him. But the hype train is in full force and suddenly LSU is the leader, UGA is offering and then the week he's supposed to go to LSU, he takes a trip to GA (his first to my knowledge) and basically commits on the spot. So everything we've been told about what he's basing the decision on and the process was blown up in the span of a week or two.

In this situation we just let ourselves get our hopes up way too high, so the crash was hard.

[Pit Bull]

UGA can only hand the ball off to one of their 5* RB?s at a time....yea I prefer UGA having him to LSU...the question has been for awhile now who will we target now? I would love to see Gray but do we have a realistic shot.

Yep....the filthy rich add another gold bar to their Fort Knox stack of gold bars. What else is new? Looks like it's gonna be UGA vs BAMA in Hotlanta battling it out for the foreseeable future. No one else is gonna be anywhere close to those 2 program's talent level.

[Pit Bull]

Personally, I think Emery is just bleeding LSU for every dime & that they'll eventually meet his price & he'll sign with them.

I can't help but wonder what would've happened had he remained a 4 star. Would we have gotten him?

Had he committed to us, he would have dropped to a 3 star.

[MarketingBully]

Not everything in life is factored by purely money.

Honestly, if his goal is to get to the NFL, he stands a way better chance of doing that by going to Georgia. He gets the competition to force himself to be better. The pedigree of knowledge offered by the school that has a solid history of running backs to the NFL. Plus he won?t be worn down by too many carries by the time he gets to the NFL.

There is a whole list of factors that can sway his decision. I?m sorry, but you?re looking through Maroon-colored glasses if you think he has no reason to go to Athens over Starkville other than money.

We would use Emery the exact same way our guys used Barkley at Penn State. Did Barkley get run down? Did that hurt his draft stock? I don’t think the UGA commitment will stick. In interviews, this kid was all over the place. Emery is more like a Barkley type bag then Chubb/Michel. I agree with IYOK. This recruitment isn’t over and I think we still have a shot.

[MarketingBully]

Here's where we got into trouble with Emery. The guys we pay for information kept talking about how he was handling his recruitment much differently than other 18 year old kids. He was studying everything with the program, the coaches. That he wanted to be the only back in the class, that he only wanted to make one commitment, etc. Then we had the July 7 date and we were led to believe that was going to be us. So it was all coming together, we were about to land an out of state stud RB that didn't like LSU for a few reasons and he was going to be solid.

Then he went and showed out at the camp and got boosted to 5 star. Suddenly it's a circus. Remember, nothing changed in how good the kid was, nothing changed with any school recruiting him. But the hype train is in full force and suddenly LSU is the leader, UGA is offering and then the week he's supposed to go to LSU, he takes a trip to GA (his first to my knowledge) and basically commits on the spot. So everything we've been told about what he's basing the decision on and the process was blown up in the span of a week or two.

In this situation we just let ourselves get our hopes up way too high, so the crash was hard.

None of that is true. It’s always been an MSU/UGA battle. The only curveball that was thrown in was him being interested in LSU all of a sudden. It was always an MSU/UGA battle though.

[Matt3467]

We could potentially have the best WR (Brown) and the best RB (Akers) in the country if we could just recruit our state. Heck one was even in our own backyard! I'm not worried about Emery. It's not unbelievable that we didn't land a 5* OOS kid. If we could just recruit our state then I believe we could win our conference.

[ShotgunDawg]

Not everything in life is factored by purely money.

Honestly, if his goal is to get to the NFL, he stands a way better chance of doing that by going to Georgia. He gets the competition to force himself to be better. The pedigree of knowledge offered by the school that has a solid history of running backs to the NFL. Plus he won?t be worn down by too many carries by the time he gets to the NFL.

There is a whole list of factors that can sway his decision. I?m sorry, but you?re looking through Maroon-colored glasses if you think he has no reason to go to Athens over Starkville other than money.

Really, a way better chance at UGA than MSU?

I would expect nothing less from a segment of our fan base.

[ShotgunDawg]

Here's where we got into trouble with Emery. The guys we pay for information kept talking about how he was handling his recruitment much differently than other 18 year old kids. He was studying everything with the program, the coaches. That he wanted to be the only back in the class, that he only wanted to make one commitment, etc. Then we had the July 7 date and we were led to believe that was going to be us. So it was all coming together, we were about to land an out of state stud RB that didn't like LSU for a few reasons and he was going to be solid.

Then he went and showed out at the camp and got boosted to 5 star. Suddenly it's a circus. Remember, nothing changed in how good the kid was, nothing changed with any school recruiting him. But the hype train is in full force and suddenly LSU is the leader, UGA is offering and then the week he's supposed to go to LSU, he takes a trip to GA (his first to my knowledge) and basically commits on the spot. So everything we've been told about what he's basing the decision on and the process was blown up in the span of a week or two.

In this situation we just let ourselves get our hopes up way too high, so the crash was hard.

Great post.

Pathetic how recruiting works.

[ShotgunDawg]

We could potentially have the best WR (Brown) and the best RB (Akers) in the country if we could just recruit our state. Heck one was even in our own backyard! I'm not worried about Emery. It's not unbelievable that we didn't land a 5* OOS kid. If we could just recruit our state then I believe we could win our conference.

100% correct.

[yjnkdawg]

If you can't see why a kid would rather play at Georgia/bama/Ohio state than us, you probably are thinking with your heart too much

I agree. Those schools have a long tradition of being national college football powers. If a kid doesn't mind competition , and apparently Emery doesn't, and believes that he is the best, then why not. As somebody said earlier, UGA has been known for a long time as getting elite running backs, and developing them for the next level, and they can get those highly recruited offensive line players to block for them. Emery's decision could have been an emotional decision, too. When the red carpet is placed in front of a recruit, and UGA can show him how running backs have excelled there and moved on to the next level, that means a lot to a potential recruit.

[Irondawg]

None of that is true. It’s always been an MSU/UGA battle. The only curveball that was thrown in was him being interested in LSU all of a sudden. It was always an MSU/UGA battle though.

i'd have to go back and look but I thought I remembered reading constantly that the depth chart and distance to UGA were big barriers and thus they weren't really that much of a threat.

That said but as other have said developing NFL talent becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy if you sign Top 5 kids at a position every year.

But it is what it is.

[ShotgunDawg]

That said but as other have said developing NFL talent becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy if you sign Top 5 kids at a position every year.
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This

For whatever reason, many meathead MSU fans can't grasp this concept.

[dantheman4248]

We would use Emery the exact same way our guys used Barkley at Penn State. Did Barkley get run down? Did that hurt his draft stock? I don’t think the UGA commitment will stick. In interviews, this kid was all over the place. Emery is more like a Barkley type bag then Chubb/Michel. I agree with IYOK. This recruitment isn’t over and I think we still have a shot.

I agree that the recruitment isn’t over. That wasn’t my point. There are plenty of reasons to come here. And this staff has 1 hit.

My point is that there are plenty of reasons to go to Georgia over Misssissippi State. Sure this staff had Barkley. But let’s look at Mississippi State in general. Two first round picks all time we’re spent on MSU halfbacks. One played one season in the 50s (Art David) and the other is often in conversation for Eagles worst draft pick ever (Michael Haddix). The best NFL running back from MSU is probably Boobie. That’s just simply bad.

Let’s compare to Georgia. Herschel Walker. Terrell Davis. Garrison Hearst. Hell, Knowshon Moreno. Oh yeah, Todd Gurley just got a crazy hefty deal. They even had one of their halfbacks turn out to be one of the best receivers for the Steelers (Hines Ward). Seriously. Only other colleges comparable to their track record are USC and maybe Wisoncsin.

The point is, we aren’t a perfect destination yet. We very well could be. But our staff has 0 wins currently. Georgia’s staff just got an SEC championship and lost in OT in the National Championship. We went 9-4. Much like Fletcher Cox’s deal is a huge recruiting sell, Gurley’s richest HB deal ever has a lot of sway. Is it a coincidence he committed so soon after that deal was inked?

[StateDawg44]

Really, a way better chance at UGA than MSU?

I would expect nothing less from a segment of our fan base.

That said but as other have said developing NFL talent becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy if you sign Top 5 kids at a position every year.

This

For whatever reason, many meathead MSU fans can't grasp this concept.

It's not that hard to grasp at all really. I don't think there is anyone that is struggling to understand that.

But to think MSU is to that point as of today is the difference between your view point and the other "segment" of the MSU fanbase. So yeah, there would likely be a way better chance at UGA than MSU today.

[dantheman4248]

Really, a way better chance at UGA than MSU?

I would expect nothing less from a segment of our fan base.

I would expect nothing less than a rebuttal with no substance from you. Do you think I want it to be the case? Just look at the facts some times. You really think a school that’s best HB in the nfl was a special teamer for most of his career is the better spot than a place that has the richest HB contract in history + Herschel Walker + TD? You know how hard of a sell that is to someone who isn’t a State fan? Like objectively try to sell that. Seriously.

We got beat for now, but a good 10+ win season + Aeris and Kylin having great years could be a game changer. Recruitment isn’t over until he signs.

[yjnkdawg]

This

For whatever reason, many meathead MSU fans can't grasp this concept.

LOL You are one to be talking about somebody not being able to grasp a concept. You should be our Football Recruiting Coordinator, and then you may see recruiting in the real world, from a different perspective, than from your fantasy message board recruiting concept.

[Bothrops]

We won't ever land a 5* RB that's not out of Mississippi. Unfortunately guys like that come along about every 5-10 years in MS, whereas it's every year or two in Louisiana. It was either Akers or Hill in '17 and Hill was a little underrated, but we weren't going to get both.

[ShotgunDawg]

It's not that hard to grasp at all really. I don't think there is anyone that is struggling to understand that.

But to think MSU is to that point as of today is the difference between your view point and the other "segment" of the MSU fanbase. So yeah, there would likely be a way better chance at UGA than MSU today.

UGA is recruiting 5 stars at RB though & 5 stars have an infinitely better chance of playing well in the NFL regardless of what school they attend.

MSU has done a wonderful job of developing RBs the should've never been drafted into draftable players.

You just can't say that because UGA has gotten 5 stars & turned them into good NFL players that a player is more likely to pan out at UGA than MSU. They are mutually exclusive.