Per David Johnson of Rebel 247

[Really Clark?]

The repeat-violator legislation (?death penalty?) is applicable to an institution if, within a five-year period, the following conditions exist:

Following the announcement of a major case, a major violation occurs and The second violation occurred within five years of the starting date of the penalty assessed in the first case. The second major case does not have to be in the same sport as the previous case to affect the second sport.

They are already under penalty for WBB and Track. Repeat offender can be used.

[Liverpooldawg]

8 lev-1 violations sure smells like smoke from where I'm sitting

ETA - reading comprehension fail - it's the second letter .... hey, maybe there's another 8 to go with the first letter

It's already more than 8. There were multiple violations in some of the categories. I think it's actually more like 60.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

The repeat-violator legislation (?death penalty?) is applicable to an institution if, within a five-year period, the following conditions exist:

Following the announcement of a major case, a major violation occurs and The second violation occurred within five years of the starting date of the penalty assessed in the first case. The second major case does not have to be in the same sport as the previous case to affect the second sport.

They are already under penalty for WBB and Track. Repeat offender can be used.

I stand corrected. Thanks Clark

[Liverpooldawg]

I stand corrected. Thanks Clark

I don't think they are subject to it UNLESS they find something that happened after the NCAA PENALTIES on on track and basketball STARTED. I think that officially started a month or two ago. That means it would have to be stuff that occurred within the last month or two. They aren't going to get the death penalty......THIS time around. What they are going to get is going to be pretty dang close.

[Really Clark?]

I don't think they are subject to it UNLESS they find something that happened after the NCAA PENALTIES on on track and basketball STARTED. I think that officially started a month or two ago. That means it would have to be stuff that occurred within the last month or two. They aren't going to get the death penalty......THIS time around. What they are going to get is going to be pretty dang close.

You are correct. Was thinking it was further back since they had self imposed and was just waiting for football to finish up. But 10/7/16 was the start of the penalty phase for them. Such a weird uncharted case.

[FISHDAWG]

This probably means Freeze is coaching OM in 2017.

Unless the sanctions come down in August or something and he gets a show cause right before the season starts.

Ole Miss has a delimma here. Do you fire Freeze after signing day and give the new coach a full Spring, offseason, and recruiting calendar, or do you risk it and keep him with the possibility/probability that he gets a show cause in right before or during the season?

it is going to be a pretty tough sell to a new coach to come in and take over that mess ... probably going to have to offer some HC wanna-be who currently is an assistant coach or coordinator from a smaller program

[BulldogBear]

it is going to be a pretty tough sell to a new coach to come in and take over that mess ... probably going to have to offer some HC wanna-be who currently is an assistant coach or coordinator from a smaller program

or a high school

Send Bobbeh up theh

[MedDawg]

I don't think they are subject to it UNLESS they find something that happened after the NCAA PENALTIES on on track and basketball STARTED. I think that officially started a month or two ago. That means it would have to be stuff that occurred within the last month or two. They aren't going to get the death penalty......THIS time around. What they are going to get is going to be pretty dang close.

They probably did cheat in the past month.

[DogsofAnarchy]

Why would ANY of you believe what an OM beat writer has to say? Are you just stupid? They have lied about every part of this investigation. Including that there wasn't an investigation!! Why would anyone with half a brain believe a damn word they would say now? It's like the liberal news channels, I'm not ever listening to them again. Lunatics!!!

He reports today that a 2nd NOA and/or amendment is on the way and there won't be a resolution until the fall of 2017, maybe. Ouch

[RocketDawg]

This probably means Freeze is coaching OM in 2017.

Unless the sanctions come down in August or something and he gets a show cause right before the season starts.

Ole Miss has a delimma here. Do you fire Freeze after signing day and give the new coach a full Spring, offseason, and recruiting calendar, or do you risk it and keep him with the possibility/probability that he gets a show cause in right before or during the season?

It might come down to a face-saving resignation for Freeze -- resign so he doesn't have to get fired, and he might not even get the show cause. He could say it was just to get the whole thing over for his beloved university, while admitting no guilt. Perhaps he might just informally agree to not go elsewhere for X number of years. I have no idea if the NCAA would be that benevolent.

[ShotgunDawg]

It might come down to a face-saving resignation for Freeze -- resign so he doesn't have to get fired, and he might not even get the show cause. He could say it was just to get the whole thing over for his beloved university, while admitting no guilt. Perhaps he might just informally agree to not go elsewhere for X number of years. I have no idea if the NCAA would be that benevolent.

I don't think the NCAA would go for that. They need show causes advertised to discourage future cheating.

[ILOATHEBears]

I don't think the NCAA would go for that. They need show causes advertised to discourage future cheating.

Is there any scenario freeze survives? I can't see it

[Todd4State]

The last time Ole Miss was in NCAA trouble when Billy Brewer was the head coach the NCAA announced the sanctions in the summer and they let go of Brewer at that point and then they had our very own Joe Lee Dunn as the interim head coach for the 1994 season which was a disaster with them finishing up at 4-7. I could see something similar happening to Ole Miss and Freeze this time as well because they are going to ride this until the gallows call.

[msbulldog]

They hang together or they hang separately!

[DownwardDawg]

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Bad joke

[WSOPdawg]

Why would ANY of you believe what an OM beat writer has to say? Are you just stupid? They have lied about every part of this investigation. Including that there wasn't an investigation!! Why would anyone with half a brain believe a damn word they would say now? It's like the liberal news channels, I'm not ever listening to them again. Lunatics!!!

Abso-17n-lutely!!! Rep given!!!

[WSOPdawg]

It might come down to a face-saving resignation for Freeze -- resign so he doesn't have to get fired, and he might not even get the show cause. He could say it was just to get the whole thing over for his beloved university, while admitting no guilt. Perhaps he might just informally agree to not go elsewhere for X number of years. I have no idea if the NCAA would be that benevolent.

I don't think it matters if Freeze is still employed by TCUN or not regarding a Show Cause cuz once the NCAA has a person in their cross-hares, they are getting whats coming to them regardless.

If they got additional cheating and illegalities since the 1st NOA (and we know they do), they'll come as close to the death penalty as the NCAA can administer (because the NCAA will view TCUN as playing the NCAA investigators for fools imo). TCUN is toast!!!

[somebodyshotmypaw]

So the phases of the investigation are as follows:

1. We aren't being investigated.
2. We are being investigated but there will be no letter.
3. There will be a letter but it won't involve football.
4. The letter involves football, but the football issues are minor violations.
5. There are some major violations in football but they were the previous staff.
6. There are some football issues with this staff, but Freeze isn't involved and no money changed hands.
7. Freeze took a booster to visit a recruit and Tunsil got money but it came from the NCAA approved fund.
8. The money was probably illegal but thankfully there will be no 2nd letter.
9. There will be a second letter, but it will be minor ....................


Their narrative changes every day.

[DeviousDawg]

Is there any scenario freeze survives? I can't see it

Yes, a 0.000000000000001% chance. Gary Johnson had a better chance of winning the election than Freeze's chances of keeping his job.

[msstate7]

Yes, a 0.000000000000001% chance. Gary Johnson had a better chance of winning the election than Freeze's chances of keeping his job.

Then why not fire him, blame everything on him, and beg for mercy?