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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Clary started too
    Fine, he's most likely suspended for the year and we gonna win like 10 games .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford View Post
    It?s season 4 for Jans and we?ve been a bubble team basically every year. I get it can be worse (I was a student during the Rick Ray years) but it?s frustrating to be in year 4 and feel like the needle isn?t continue to move forward.

    Chris Jans = Dan Mullen. Brought us out of being a SEC bottom dweller but couldn?t move past middle of the pack.
    We were due for a down year, it looks like we are about to have it. Just bc it?s year 4 doesn?t mean we are supposed to be better than year 3. The graph doesn?t always go up.

    What concerns me is our portal evaluations. Jans made a concerted effort to sacrifice offense for defense. That is not the way.

    Stop trying to find 10-11 good players and instead go get 6 really good to great players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Of course I do. I just don't think we fund our program enough to be upper echelon of the sec.
    Investment is one criterion. Having a top coach is another. Jans is #8 in the SEC in terms of salary at $4.2 million and 18th in the country. That's a top 5 seed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msugolf View Post
    Totally wrong on that one. He has plenty of NIL money available
    What's the number we have? Florida, aTm, Texas, bama, auburn, Kentucky, ark are 8. You telling me we are top half? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    What's the number we have? Florida, aTm, Texas, bama, auburn, Kentucky, ark are 8. You telling me we are top half? Really?
    He was told whatever he needs he has it available if needed. His problem is getting guys interested in playing in his system

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    Quote Originally Posted by msugolf View Post
    He was told whatever he needs he has it available if needed. His problem is getting guys interested in playing in his system
    I find it hard to believe in this environment that he can't get good guys with unlimited funds.

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    Tonight was totally unacceptable though, and Jans needs to fix it before Kansas st

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    Jans should have to answer for Ballard getting less mins than macura, Davis-Fleming, and grace. Ballard only had 1 foul

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I find it hard to believe in this environment that he can't get good guys with unlimited funds.
    Well maybe that?s youre problem then. You create your own truth even when someone else tells you otherwise

    Murphy didnt want to play for him anymore despite how much we offered. He told Kugel to look elsewhere but he was tired of getting railed on as well. Players today want to play in offensive system and score. And they want a system that can develop and showcase their ability scoring. They dont want to spend 70 percent of their practices working on defense

    Btw kugel has scored 25 and 19 his first 2 games

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Jans should have to answer for Ballard getting less mins than macura, Davis-Fleming, and grace. Ballard only had 1 foul
    That alone doesn't change the outcome but certainly is hard to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msugolf View Post
    Well maybe that?s youre problem then. You create your own truth even when someone else tells you otherwise

    Murphy didnt want to play for him anymore despite how much we offered. He told Kugel to look elsewhere but he was tired of getting railed on as well. Players today want to play in offensive system and score. And they want a system that can develop and showcase their ability scoring. They dont want to spend 70 percent of their practices working on defense

    Btw kugel has scored 25 and 19 his first 2 games
    You aren't saying anything though. I asked you a number, and you can't give it. You say we're top half, but you don't know our number, so how can you know that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    You aren't saying anything though. I asked you a number, and you can't give it. You say we're top half, but you don't know our number, so how can you know that?
    I dont have to tell you a number. I?m involved with the program. Don?t care about your affirmation

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    To be top half, we'd have to at least be at 8 million. Ark, Tenn, Texas, Florida, auburn, Kentucky, and bama are all reported at that number with ark and UK at 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    To be top half, we'd have to at least be at 8 million. Ark, Tenn, Texas, Florida, auburn, Kentucky, and bama are all reported at that number with ark and UK at 10.
    We certainly have the money to put together a competitive roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msugolf View Post
    Well maybe that?s youre problem then. You create your own truth even when someone else tells you otherwise

    Murphy didnt want to play for him anymore despite how much we offered. He told Kugel to look elsewhere but he was tired of getting railed on as well. Players today want to play in offensive system and score. And they want a system that can develop and showcase their ability scoring. They dont want to spend 70 percent of their practices working on defense

    Btw kugel has scored 25 and 19 his first 2 games
    Btw, state was 6th in the sec in scoring last season at 79.5 PPG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    We certainly have the money to put together a competitive roster.
    I agree with that. I'm not saying we don't have enough to compete. I'm saying we aren't top half of the sec in spending

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    Quote Originally Posted by msugolf View Post
    Well maybe that?s youre problem then. You create your own truth even when someone else tells you otherwise

    Murphy didnt want to play for him anymore despite how much we offered. He told Kugel to look elsewhere but he was tired of getting railed on as well. Players today want to play in offensive system and score. And they want a system that can develop and showcase their ability scoring. They dont want to spend 70 percent of their practices working on defense

    Btw kugel has scored 25 and 19 his first 2 games
    Hubbard, Murphy and Kugel would have been a fun team to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Btw, state was 6th in the sec in scoring last season at 79.5 PPG.
    And Jans hated it. He lamented that style of play which was and is very disheartening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    And Jans hated it. He lamented that style of play which was and is very disheartening.
    Sucks bc it's more fun. I don't think guys are turning down more money here bc of it though. Tenn doesn't score at all and they load up every season.

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    I like Jan?s a lot but his way of thinking is off.

    The strategy LAST year was the right strategy - get guys who can score
    And make them play D.

    At the end of the day you need to be able to score about 80 and we may not be capable.

    I would play

    Warren
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    McGhee
    Walker
    The bug guy

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