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					12-16-2018, 04:21 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Were we expecting Pickering to sign in Dec.?
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 04:29 PM
				
			
			
				
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							No, he’s going to take all of his visits
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 04:29 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  GreenheadDawg  
 Were we expecting Pickering to sign in Dec.? 
 
 
 Yes. He was always going to take his visits
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 04:31 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  MetEdDawg  
 Pretty sure it's you man. Should we drop every commit that doesn't sign during the early period? Get over yourself and your state pride bull crap. Kids are kids man. They do this. Get over it man.
 
 If the staff wants him he stays. If not he gets dropped. So be it.
 
 
 
 I?m gonna take up for shotgun here. He and his dad told us he was not going to visit UT then showed up.  Also there are concerns that he won?t get out in January
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 04:31 PM
				
			
			
				
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							A Bama guy just tweeted about Pickering losing Hud as part of his recruitment and it being interesting to watch. Pickering tweeted "I wish Coach Hud and his family nothing but the best but...nope! #HailStateForever
 
 Some of our fan base doesn't understand this generation of kids which means they don't understand recruiting.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 04:34 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  MetEdDawg  
 Pretty sure it's you man. Should we drop every commit that doesn't sign during the early period? Get over yourself and your state pride bull crap. Kids are kids man. They do this. Get over it man.
 
 If the staff wants him he stays. If not he gets dropped. So be it.
 
 
 
 Completely different to take visits & being honest about it.
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
					CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
 
 Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 04:34 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Dawgfan77  
 I?m gonna take up for shotgun here. He and his dad told us he was not going to visit UT then showed up.  Also there are concerns that he won?t get out in January 
 
 
 
 Here's the thing. You don't drop kids forntakikg visits. You drop them for the second part. He's a juco that may not get in early.
 
 If shotgun had said that no one would have had a problem. But instead he said drop him taking a visit because he said he wouldn't. You don't do that crap
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 04:36 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  GreenheadDawg  
 Honestly if I had the chance I would have visited as many big programs as I could have. They won?t get the chance again. 
 
 
 Would you lie about it to the team you are committed too?
 
 Also, what if this kid could get to campus till June?
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
					CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
 
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					12-16-2018, 04:36 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ShotgunDawg  
 Completely different to take visits & being honest about it. 
 
 
 
 So let's say the dad is the one that forced this and the kid didn't have a choice. You still cool with dropping him?
 
 There would be a few other guys we got that we would have to retroactively drop for this crap too.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 04:37 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  MetEdDawg  
 A Bama guy just tweeted about Pickering losing Hud as part of his recruitment and it being interesting to watch. Pickering tweeted "I wish Coach Hud and his family nothing but the best but...nope! #HailStateForever
 
 Some of our fan base doesn't understand this generation of kids which means they don't understand recruiting.
 
 
 
 But here's the deal:
 
 1. Pickering has been completely honest the entire time. He is invested in MSU.
 2. Pickering is much much better prospect than Payton
 
 Two completely different situations & maturity in the way it's being handled
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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					12-16-2018, 04:38 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  MetEdDawg  
 So let's say the dad is the one that forced this and the kid didn't have a choice. You still cool with dropping him? 
 
 There would be a few other guys we got that we would have to retroactively drop for this crap too.
 
 
 
 I'm not going to argue with you about this. I wouldn't take the kid.
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
				
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					12-16-2018, 04:44 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ShotgunDawg  
 But here's the deal:
 
 1. Pickering has been completely honest the entire time. He is invested in MSU.
 2. Pickering is much much better prospect than Payton
 
 Two completely different situations & maturity in the way it's being handled
 
 
 
 I was reposnding to someone asking about Pickering. Not the Payton situation.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 05:39 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  MetEdDawg  
 A Bama guy just tweeted about Pickering losing Hud as part of his recruitment and it being interesting to watch. Pickering tweeted "I wish Coach Hud and his family nothing but the best but...nope! #HailStateForever
 
 Some of our fan base doesn't understand this generation of kids which means they don't understand recruiting.
 
 
 
 Seattle down.  He’s 100% MSU.  Our fans need to let him have his fun.  It’s all work once he signs with us.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 05:49 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ShotgunDawg  
 I'm not going to argue with you about this. I wouldn't take the kid. 
 
 
 That's fine if YOU wouldn't but let's allow our coaches to handle this as they see fit.  Sort of reminds me of when Rosebowl went on about us likely dropping Brandon Bryant when he unexpectedly took a visit to USM.  Our coaches worked through it with him and we kept him in the boat.  I'll just trust the coaches to handle this situation with Payton.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 06:12 PM
				
			
			
				
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							My instinct tells me to put 50/50 on anybody that isn't signing this week. And for that I do. Visits are cool, but I personally don't buy the need to go everywhere before I sign crap. Why subject yourself to the pressure, the hemming and hawing of other people trying to get you to think like them. Especially with UT and Nick bastard Saban in the same neighborhood. Paint my face skeptical.
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 06:15 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  maroonmania  
 That's fine if YOU wouldn't but let's allow our coaches to handle this as they see fit.  Sort of reminds me of when Rosebowl went on about us likely dropping Brandon Bryant when he unexpectedly took a visit to USM.  Our coaches worked through it with him and we kept him in the boat.  I'll just trust the coaches to handle this situation with Payton. 
 
 
 I think the bigger issue is that he will not graduate until May, missing all of the spring. That?s a major reason we dropped M. Richardson. He may not be a take at this point.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 06:15 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Bothrops  
 My instinct tells me to put 50/50 on anybody that isn't signing this week. And for that I do. Visits are cool, but I personally don't buy the need to go everywhere before I sign crap. Why subject yourself to the pressure, the hemming and hawing of other people trying to get you to think like them. Especially with UT and Nick bastard Saban in the same neighborhood. Paint my face skeptical. 
 
 
 For the fun of it???
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 06:17 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Bothrops  
 My instinct tells me to put 50/50 on anybody that isn't signing this week. And for that I do. Visits are cool, but I personally don't buy the need to go everywhere before I sign crap. Why subject yourself to the pressure, the hemming and hawing of other people trying to get you to think like them. Especially with UT and Nick bastard Saban in the same neighborhood. Paint my face skeptical. 
 
 
 Ditto
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 06:20 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  ShotgunDawg  
 Kid lied to everyone about it & was close to getting dropped anyway 
 
 
 Easy killer. Hope he doesnt see that
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					12-16-2018, 06:23 PM
				
			
			
				
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							You guys do understand that until the Dec. early date started, all these guys got to take visits til Feb?  It’s just the way things are now.  This isn’t new.  The early signing date is.
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
			
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