Page 21 of 29 FirstFirst ... 111920212223 ... LastLast
Results 401 to 420 of 578

Thread: 2022 MSU FOOTBALL RECRUITING Discussion Thread

  1. #401
    Senior Member Commercecomet24's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Posts
    16,710
    vCash
    600
    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    If you think 40% or more of college football fans are done with college football after not being able to go in person I have some prime beach property in Artesia.
    This^^^

  2. #402
    Senior Member OLJWales's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2019
    Posts
    2,627
    vCash
    500
    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    If you think 40% or more of college football fans are done with college football after not being able to go in person I have some prime beach property in Artesia.
    Post More.
    Truth is stranger than fiction because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn?t.
    A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes

    Mark Twain

  3. #403
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Posts
    2,431
    vCash
    600
    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    Not unless we make some major changes in the future. Outside of Vandy, we have the least committed recruiting system in the SEC. You have to play dirty to recruit that high. And we're not willing to do that (at least at the level others are). We pay players, make no mistake about it, but our network isn't on the same level as others, including the bunch up the road. Which is why they'll continue to out recruit us until something changes.
    Before the Covid hit, we were 50 out of 52 Power 5 schools Football recruiting budget $$?we have done a lot with a little.

  4. #404
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    8,259
    vCash
    700
    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    We also haven't had a lot of football coaches that were willing or knew how to recruit at a high level like Dan and that has hurt us as well.
    You mean JWS?

  5. #405
    Senior Member Ari Gold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    West coast
    Posts
    4,333
    vCash
    600
    Quote Originally Posted by FriarsPoint View Post
    Meanwhile, Alabama is landing sure fire players that a coach with minimal ability can develop and lots of them. Same with Ohio State, Georgia, Oklahoma, Clemson, USC, LSU, etc.

    It gets old. The wuhan flu is going to end up being the worst thing to happen to college football. It cost college football 40%(if not more) of its audience. Me included. Not until the nfl starts its own farm league system will I watch again and we all know that will never happen. The product is broken and is beyond repair.
    So I guess you havent been watching football for the last 10 or so years.. it’s not like all these teams haven’t been getting the best players and making the playoffs year after after
    college football is what it is ..

    And yes the final four for this year and next year will be a combo of
    Bama , Clemson, Ohio state, Oklahoma, Georgia , and a Pac 12 pretender or ND
    once the 12 team playoffs gets introduced the post season will get more interesting , until then enjoy Bama, Clemson , Ohio state and ( fill in team here )

  6. #406
    Senior Member Ari Gold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    West coast
    Posts
    4,333
    vCash
    600
    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    Before the Covid hit, we were 50 out of 52 Power 5 schools Football recruiting budget $$?we have done a lot with a little.
    And we will have to keep doing this because the budget isn’t going to change.. we proved that just recently

  7. #407
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Posts
    384
    vCash
    500
    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    And we will have to keep doing this because the budget isn’t going to change.. we proved that just recently
    Ari, why is that the case? Like why do we not care?

    thank you for your insight.

  8. #408
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    9,881
    vCash
    1200
    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I think we'll start though because a big reason why we haven't done that is MSU cuts off any "Network" and runs and turns it into the NCAA and we get sanctions. That and we have a lot of take the high road boosters who weren't willing to get involved because it was illegal. Well, it's not now.

    We also haven't had a lot of football coaches that were willing or knew how to recruit at a high level like Dan and that has hurt us as well.

    To me it goes both ways- yes they (other teams) will be able to pay players but now so are we. Part of the problem with the old system was it was so subjective and not consistent with even their own rules and teams could just sue their way out of it. It was basically like operating under two different systems. That won't be the case now.
    Lets be honest, you don't get the players w get wo a "network". I know you aren't that naive. I understand it isn't as grand as bama's most of the league, but we certainly aren't without.

  9. #409
    Senior Member bulldawg28's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    4,457
    vCash
    1200
    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Lets be honest, you don't get the players w get wo a "network". I know you aren't that naive. I understand it isn't as grand as bama's most of the league, but we certainly aren't without.
    Preach!

  10. #410
    Senior Member Todd4State's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    34,962
    vCash
    1200
    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Lets be honest, you don't get the players w get wo a "network". I know you aren't that naive. I understand it isn't as grand as bama's most of the league, but we certainly aren't without.
    No we're not without. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that we aren't operating at full capacity or full potential. And that's because we tend to want to follow the rules. I think we have some boosters that would have been gladly pay players if it was legal.

  11. #411
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    2,203
    vCash
    1200
    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    I mean we're better than Tulsa or Georgia Tech, but compared to the teams we actually compete against (on the field and for recruits) we're pretty far behind.
    We are not a bama machine but we have a better network than you think. We played very safe over the last few years now that's off the table

  12. #412
    Senior Member KOdawg1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    7,897
    vCash
    964000
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgfan77 View Post
    We are not a bama machine but we have a better network than you think. We played very safe over the last few years now that's off the table
    Like I said, compared to the teams we play, we're behind. That's all that matters

  13. #413
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    4,126
    vCash
    600
    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    The DB ( Nicholson ) is a steal for us IF we can hold on to him... he will be one of the highest ranked juco players in the state before it?s over
    And there is still plenty of time till December when it comes to both Williams and Harris .. everyone just be a little patient
    Ari, you said to be patient, but we have dropped from 13 to 26 in rankings, don't have a 4* in the boat, have 10 spots, and 24/7 only shows us with 7 warm top targets and hoping to flip 2 commits from Oregon and UM. Sure hope there are many more positive things than this happening behind the scenes. Sorry, but very concerned in almost August. Update? Hail State!

  14. #414
    Senior Member Todd4State's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    34,962
    vCash
    1200
    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Ari, you said to be patient, but we have dropped from 13 to 26 in rankings, don't have a 4* in the boat, have 10 spots, and 24/7 only shows us with 7 warm top targets and hoping to flip 2 commits from Oregon and UM. Sure hope there are many more positive things than this happening behind the scenes. Sorry, but very concerned in almost August. Update? Hail State!
    Yeah. It seems like we're sitting on our ass while everyone else is recruiting.

  15. #415
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    8,259
    vCash
    700
    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Ari, you said to be patient, but we have dropped from 13 to 26 in rankings, don't have a 4* in the boat, have 10 spots, and 24/7 only shows us with 7 warm top targets and hoping to flip 2 commits from Oregon and UM. Sure hope there are many more positive things than this happening behind the scenes. Sorry, but very concerned in almost August. Update? Hail State!
    To be truthful, some of our commits would still be 4* if only our name was Arkansas or Ole Miss, so our class isn't exactly what it seems. But I am concerned about our d-line recruiting.

  16. #416
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2017
    Posts
    1,311
    vCash
    50535
    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Ari, you said to be patient, but we have dropped from 13 to 26 in rankings, don't have a 4* in the boat, have 10 spots, and 24/7 only shows us with 7 warm top targets and hoping to flip 2 commits from Oregon and UM. Sure hope there are many more positive things than this happening behind the scenes. Sorry, but very concerned in almost August. Update? Hail State!
    Looks like we will end up in the #32 - #36 range........reflective of a piss poor year last year and the advent of the new NIL reality

  17. #417
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    9,881
    vCash
    1200
    Quote Originally Posted by Doggie_Style View Post
    Looks like we will end up in the #32 - #36 range........reflective of a piss poor year last year and the advent of the new NIL reality
    Wait, but rosebowl said we would be top 20!! We will end up around where we always do. Is what it is....

  18. #418
    Senior Member maroonmania's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    17,511
    vCash
    1200
    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Wait, but rosebowl said we would be top 20!! We will end up around where we always do. Is what it is....
    If we continue to finish around where we have been finishing with the free for all that NIL has brought on, I would consider that a win. Without NIL we likely could have had a top 20 class this year or close to it.
    Last edited by maroonmania; 07-25-2021 at 01:44 PM.

  19. #419
    Senior Member KOdawg1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    7,897
    vCash
    964000
    Let's take a look at the in-state DL board...

    The only commit we have right now is Donterry Russell who will hopefully grow into a DE like his brother. Could be an edge LB, but I think he puts on the weight.

    The only other guy we probably lead for right now is RJ Moss. I like his game a lot. Was a 4 star until Rivals and ESPN gave him their default rankings.

    The rest of the guys, we'll have to do some flipping to get.

    Jaheim Oatis - Alabama
    Zxavian Harris - Ole Miss
    Trevion Williams - Florida St.
    Jacarius Clayton - Ole Miss
    Aaron Bryant - not committed, but headed out of state or to OM

    Clayton wants to play DL, and we told him we wanted him at OL, so he's off the board. You can cross Bryant off too, because he isn't coming here. So that leaves Oatis, Harris, and Williams.

    Oatis has a family member who wants him at MSU, plus Tony Hughes is heading his recruitment, so we have a shot, but I think unless Bama drops him or tells him they want him at OL, we don't have that great of a chance. We led for Harris for a long time, but then he committed to OM kinda out of nowhere. We have John Lewis on our side and Germantown has some MSU influence, but I don't get the warm and fuzzies. Then Williams committed on his visit to FSU, which kind of caught people by surprise as well. He's the most talented out of all these guys imo. I hope his recruitment follows the same path as Charles Cross. Just need to get him on campus and keep working. I think we can get him.

    So if we get Russell, Moss, and one out of Oatis, Harris, and Williams, I'll be content. Ideally, we would've added 4 of those, but we absolutely have to get 3. There are a few options out of state, but with our pedigree of putting DL in the NFL, you can't come away with only 2 out of the top 7 DL in the state. Especially all the DTs.

  20. #420
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2020
    Posts
    384
    vCash
    500
    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    Let's take a look at the in-state DL board...

    The only commit we have right now is Donterry Russell who will hopefully grow into a DE like his brother. Could be an edge LB, but I think he puts on the weight.

    The only other guy we probably lead for right now is RJ Moss. I like his game a lot. Was a 4 star until Rivals and ESPN gave him their default rankings.

    The rest of the guys, we'll have to do some flipping to get.

    Jaheim Oatis - Alabama
    Zxavian Harris - Ole Miss
    Trevion Williams - Florida St.
    Jacarius Clayton - Ole Miss
    Aaron Bryant - not committed, but headed out of state or to OM

    Clayton wants to play DL, and we told him we wanted him at OL, so he's off the board. You can cross Bryant off too, because he isn't coming here. So that leaves Oatis, Harris, and Williams.

    Oatis has a family member who wants him at MSU, plus Tony Hughes is heading his recruitment, so we have a shot, but I think unless Bama drops him or tells him they want him at OL, we don't have that great of a chance. We led for Harris for a long time, but then he committed to OM kinda out of nowhere. We have John Lewis on our side and Germantown has some MSU influence, but I don't get the warm and fuzzies. Then Williams committed on his visit to FSU, which kind of caught people by surprise as well. He's the most talented out of all these guys imo. I hope his recruitment follows the same path as Charles Cross. Just need to get him on campus and keep working. I think we can get him.

    So if we get Russell, Moss, and one out of Oatis, Harris, and Williams, I'll be content. Ideally, we would've added 4 of those, but we absolutely have to get 3. There are a few options out of state, but with our pedigree of putting DL in the NFL, you can't come away with only 2 out of the top 7 DL in the state. Especially all the DTs.
    Good info! So, do you have a prediction?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Disclaimer: Elitedawgs is a privately owned and operated forum that is managed by alumni of Mississippi State University. This website is in no way affiliated with the Mississippi State University, The Southeastern Conference (SEC) or the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). The views and opinions expressed herein are strictly those of the post author and may not reflect the views of other members of this forum or elitedawgs.com. The interactive nature of the elitedawgs.com forums makes it impossible for elitedawgs.com to assume responsibility for any of the content posted at this site. Ideas, thoughts, suggestion, comments, opinions, advice and observations made by participants at elitedawgs.com are not endorsed by elitedawgs.com
Elitedawgs: A Mississippi State Fan Forum, Mississippi State Football, Mississippi State Basketball, Mississippi State Baseball, Mississippi State Athletics. Mississippi State message board.