Moorhead is still my guy......

[Lord McBuckethead]

No sarcasm here. I like Joe Moorhead. I see where he wants to go with our team, and I agree with it. People keep saying 3 yards and a Cloud of dust, the MSState way...yada yada. Look 3 yards will not win it in this league. Not for us. If we had 11 4-5 stars starting both side of the football like GA and Bama, then yes. We could compete that way. We have to have big strike capabilites in both passing and rushing to do it. We need to open up the field. Keep the defense guessing and playing straight up. We need exceptional play calling, execution, and qb play. Moorhead is trying to do it. He can and will do it. We just have to let him have a little bit of time.

I hate losing. I hate looking out of position and out of our gameplan. That is wgat has bothered me this season, especially the KSU game and our defense this season. But I realize 10 players our suspended including 3 contributors on defense. I understand we have played 18 combinations on the oline so far due to injuries. I understand that Tommy has something going on with his upper body. I underatand these things are impacting the entire team from top coaching down to fg holder.

So I am behind Moorhead. Get us to 6 wins and we can all be pissed at the players that has handicapped us this entire season because they couldn't google simple ass answers for a intro to chem class and do their simple homeowrk during the off season.

[Fader21]

Great Post... Rep Given

[TrapGame]

Your post is too rational and makes too much sense.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Lord McBuckethead again.

[smootness]

No sarcasm here. I like Joe Moorhead. I see where he wants to go with our team, and I agree with it. People keep saying 3 yards and a Cloud of dust, the MSState way...yada yada. Look 3 yards will not win it in this league. Not for us. If we had 11 4-5 stars starting both side of the football like GA and Bama, then yes. We could compete that way. We have to have big strike capabilites in both passing and rushing to do it. We need to open up the field. Keep the defense guessing and playing straight up. We need exceptional play calling, execution, and qb play. Moorhead is trying to do it.

I agree with this for the most part, I think we have to be innovative and creative on offense with our playcalling, personnel, all of that. It's why I initially loved the Moorhead hire.

He can and will do it. We just have to let him have a little bit of time.

And this is where I just disagree. I think I've seen enough to know that while he is intending and attempting to do the things we need to do, I just don't think he's the guy who can actually do them. I don't think he runs an organized, disciplined program, and I think his offense has fatal flaws that make it extremely hard to have lots of success against a well-coached defense.

[Offshore Dawg]

Way too much logic for this board

[ShotgunDawg]

No sarcasm here. I like Joe Moorhead. I see where he wants to go with our team, and I agree with it. People keep saying 3 yards and a Cloud of dust, the MSState way...yada yada. Look 3 yards will not win it in this league. Not for us. If we had 11 4-5 stars starting both side of the football like GA and Bama, then yes. We could compete that way. We have to have big strike capabilites in both passing and rushing to do it. We need to open up the field. Keep the defense guessing and playing straight up. We need exceptional play calling, execution, and qb play. Moorhead is trying to do it. He can and will do it. We just have to let him have a little bit of time.

I hate losing. I hate looking out of position and out of our gameplan. That is wgat has bothered me this season, especially the KSU game and our defense this season. But I realize 10 players our suspended including 3 contributors on defense. I understand we have played 18 combinations on the oline so far due to injuries. I understand that Tommy has something going on with his upper body. I underatand these things are impacting the entire team from top coaching down to fg holder.

So I am behind Moorhead. Get us to 6 wins and we can all be pissed at the players that has handicapped us this entire season because they couldn't google simple ass answers for a intro to chem class and do their simple homeowrk during the off season.

Help me understand what he's done to be your guy?

Or is anyone that signs on to the MSU football coach, "your guy"?

[ShotgunDawg]

I agree with this for the most part, I think we have to be innovative and creative on offense with our playcalling, personnel, all of that. It's why I initially loved the Moorhead hire.


And this is where I just disagree. I think I've seen enough to know that while he is intending and attempting to do the things we need to do, I just don't think he's the guy who can actually do them. I don't think he runs an organized, disciplined program, and I think his offense has fatal flaws that make it extremely hard to have lots of success against a well-coached defense.

Seems to me good pass rusher absolutely destroy his offense

[WPDawg]

No sarcasm here. I like Joe Moorhead. I see where he wants to go with our team, and I agree with it. People keep saying 3 yards and a Cloud of dust, the MSState way...yada yada. Look 3 yards will not win it in this league. Not for us. If we had 11 4-5 stars starting both side of the football like GA and Bama, then yes. We could compete that way. We have to have big strike capabilites in both passing and rushing to do it. We need to open up the field. Keep the defense guessing and playing straight up. We need exceptional play calling, execution, and qb play. Moorhead is trying to do it. He can and will do it. We just have to let him have a little bit of time.

I hate losing. I hate looking out of position and out of our gameplan. That is wgat has bothered me this season, especially the KSU game and our defense this season. But I realize 10 players our suspended including 3 contributors on defense. I understand we have played 18 combinations on the oline so far due to injuries. I understand that Tommy has something going on with his upper body. I underatand these things are impacting the entire team from top coaching down to fg holder.

So I am behind Moorhead. Get us to 6 wins and we can all be pissed at the players that has handicapped us this entire season because they couldn't google simple ass answers for a intro to chem class and do their simple homeowrk during the off season.

Great post. I feel that a large percentage of MSU fans support that sentiment. Support what Joe is doing and see how things work out. I hate losing but the man has been successful everywhere he has coached. I trust that he hates losing also and not just for himself but also for the players and fan base.

[Liverpooldawg]

No sarcasm here. I like Joe Moorhead. I see where he wants to go with our team, and I agree with it. People keep saying 3 yards and a Cloud of dust, the MSState way...yada yada. Look 3 yards will not win it in this league. Not for us. If we had 11 4-5 stars starting both side of the football like GA and Bama, then yes. We could compete that way. We have to have big strike capabilites in both passing and rushing to do it. We need to open up the field. Keep the defense guessing and playing straight up. We need exceptional play calling, execution, and qb play. Moorhead is trying to do it. He can and will do it. We just have to let him have a little bit of time.

I hate losing. I hate looking out of position and out of our gameplan. That is wgat has bothered me this season, especially the KSU game and our defense this season. But I realize 10 players our suspended including 3 contributors on defense. I understand we have played 18 combinations on the oline so far due to injuries. I understand that Tommy has something going on with his upper body. I underatand these things are impacting the entire team from top coaching down to fg holder.

So I am behind Moorhead. Get us to 6 wins and we can all be pissed at the players that has handicapped us this entire season because they couldn't google simple ass answers for a intro to chem class and do their simple homeowrk during the off season.

Yep.

[Liverpooldawg]

Help me understand what he's done to be your guy?

Or is anyone that signs on to the MSU football coach, "your guy"?

He is using logic, and understands what wins in big time football now. Smashmouth ain't getting you nothing special. I love smashmouth football, bit it won't get it now. The MSU always runs to win is same ole State thinking. What Moorehead does is where football is headed. Is he the guy? School is still out. But what he does is what we need to be doing.

[Jack Lambert]

Great post. I feel that a large percentage of MSU fans support that sentiment. Support what Joe is doing and see how things work out. I hate losing but the man has been successful everywhere he has coached. I trust that he hates losing also and not just for himself but also for the players and fan base.

I agree and also applies to this message board but the perception is opposite because you have the same hand full of posters each starting 10 thread a day about the same negative thing. They package it different but it is started so they can shout down the people who disagree with them and want to remain positive. It is ridicules and down right stupid shit. Over and over and over and over, it is getting old. Oh yeah you be damned if you start a positive thread. There are thread I don't even open because you are going to hear the same old crap.

[Dawg2003]

There are two concurrent issues. The first issue is the personnel issue, which can't be blamed on Moorhead. It's not his fault TS got injured or some key players decided to cheat. The second issue is the lack of discipline, effort, and preparation. Those issues are much more concerning because they reflect a culture issue within the program. They reflect a head coach that does not know how to hold his players responsible. Once that takes hold, you can't get rid of it.

[gravedigger]

No sarcasm here. I like Joe Moorhead. I see where he wants to go with our team, and I agree with it. People keep saying 3 yards and a Cloud of dust, the MSState way...yada yada. Look 3 yards will not win it in this league. Not for us. If we had 11 4-5 stars starting both side of the football like GA and Bama, then yes. We could compete that way. We have to have big strike capabilites in both passing and rushing to do it. We need to open up the field. Keep the defense guessing and playing straight up. We need exceptional play calling, execution, and qb play. Moorhead is trying to do it. He can and will do it. We just have to let him have a little bit of time.

I hate losing. I hate looking out of position and out of our gameplan. That is wgat has bothered me this season, especially the KSU game and our defense this season. But I realize 10 players our suspended including 3 contributors on defense. I understand we have played 18 combinations on the oline so far due to injuries. I understand that Tommy has something going on with his upper body. I underatand these things are impacting the entire team from top coaching down to fg holder.

So I am behind Moorhead. Get us to 6 wins and we can all be pissed at the players that has handicapped us this entire season because they couldn't google simple ass answers for a intro to chem class and do their simple homeowrk during the off season.

I feel the same way. It is pointless to look at a coach hired less than 2 years ago and act as if he will be fired for wins and losses when he makes a bowl in his first season. Absolutely pointless. It is not settling for mediocrity. In this particular division of the most competitive conference in football, it takes time. It took Mullen time. Sherrill waned in and out of mediocrity and into the pits his last three seasons. MSU is stuck next to a school who has no limit to what they will do to get a player and the top program in the country bar none. That doesnt count LSU, Auburn or Arkansas and we compete with all of them too.

[yjnkdawg]

No sarcasm here. I like Joe Moorhead. I see where he wants to go with our team, and I agree with it. People keep saying 3 yards and a Cloud of dust, the MSState way...yada yada. Look 3 yards will not win it in this league. Not for us. If we had 11 4-5 stars starting both side of the football like GA and Bama, then yes. We could compete that way. We have to have big strike capabilites in both passing and rushing to do it. We need to open up the field. Keep the defense guessing and playing straight up. We need exceptional play calling, execution, and qb play. Moorhead is trying to do it. He can and will do it. We just have to let him have a little bit of time.


I hate losing. I hate looking out of position and out of our gameplan. That is wgat has bothered me this season, especially the KSU game and our defense this season. But I realize 10 players our suspended including 3 contributors on defense. I understand we have played 18 combinations on the oline so far due to injuries. I understand that Tommy has something going on with his upper body. I underatand these things are impacting the entire team from top coaching down to fg holder.

So I am behind Moorhead. Get us to 6 wins and we can all be pissed at the players that has handicapped us this entire season because they couldn't google simple ass answers for a intro to chem class and do their simple homeowrk during the off season.

Great Post and overview. Rep given.

[yjnkdawg]

I agree and also applies to this message board but the perception is opposite because you have the same hand full of posters each starting 10 thread a day about the same negative thing. They package it different but it is started so they can shout down the people who disagree with them and want to remain positive. It is ridicules and down right stupid shit. Over and over and over and over, it is getting old. Oh yeah you be damned if you start a positive thread. There are thread I don't even open because you are going to hear the same old crap.

I agree 100%. Very well stated and to the point. You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Jack Lambert again.

[Dawgology]

I think his heart is in the right place and he is a good fella but his coaching philosophy doesn’t look like it’s going to work without incorporating NFL talent throughout the roster. It’s ok to like a guy but not be ok with the product on the field. I think we still have a small portion of the fanbase that can’t separate those two. No coach is greater than our program and that small handful of fans will want to hold on to a struggling coach out of fear of “something worse”. This is a valid fear but it is also an approach that is guaranteed to plateau the program and eventually cause it to slide backwards.

[KOdawg1]

I think Joe is smart and probably a decent coach. I think Joe knows what he wants to do with our program. However, I just do not think he is the right fit for us. I really hope Im wrong and I hope he proves me wrong

[ShotgunDawg]

He is using logic, and understands what wins in big time football now. Smashmouth ain't getting you nothing special. I love smashmouth football, bit it won't get it now. The MSU always runs to win is same ole State thinking. What Moorehead does is where football is headed. Is he the guy? School is still out. But what he does is what we need to be doing.

I don't disagree that passing is needed to win big in college football now, but passing offenses is not exclusive to Moorhead & still not the most important ingredient needed to be a good coach. What about Moorhead has made him your guy?

[Johnson85]

I agree with this for the most part, I think we have to be innovative and creative on offense with our playcalling, personnel, all of that. It's why I initially loved the Moorhead hire.


And this is where I just disagree. I think I've seen enough to know that while he is intending and attempting to do the things we need to do, I just don't think he's the guy who can actually do them.

I don't think we've seen enough to know that he's not the guy who can actually do the things needed. He certainly has had some shortcomings and has a done a poor job in some aspects, but I don' think it's time to give up on him yet.

I don't think he runs an organized, disciplined program,

he clearly doesn't, and that's not something he can just fix overnight. But, I think it's something he could address with the right hire on his staff. I'm thinking an exhead coach that he could sort of turn into his CO as far as running practices and disciplinary stuff goes. IF he's going to basically be the offensive coordinator, he's got to lighten his load somewhere else, and that seems like a natural place to do it. Then he can focus on gameplanning and playcalling.

and I think his offense has fatal flaws that make it extremely hard to have lots of success against a well-coached defense.

I'm concerned about this realizing how much talent PSU had at the skill positions. But we haven't really gotten to see it with reasonably appropriate players against comparably talented defenses. If TS is healthy this week and we don't move the ball well against UK at home, I will be much more concerned.

[ShotgunDawg]

I don't think we've seen enough to know that he's not the guy who can actually do the things needed. He certainly has had some shortcomings and has a done a poor job in some aspects, but I don' think it's time to give up on him yet.


he clearly doesn't, and that's not something he can just fix overnight. But, I think it's something he could address with the right hire on his staff. I'm thinking an exhead coach that he could sort of turn into his CO as far as running practices and disciplinary stuff goes. IF he's going to basically be the offensive coordinator, he's got to lighten his load somewhere else, and that seems like a natural place to do it. Then he can focus on gameplanning and playcalling.


I'm concerned about this realizing how much talent PSU had at the skill positions. But we haven't really gotten to see it with reasonably appropriate players against comparably talented defenses. If TS is healthy this week and we don't move the ball well against UK at home, I will be much more concerned.

- I disagree that we haven't seen enough. We may not have seen enough to justify firing him, but I've seen plenty to know he doesn't have "it"
- I do agree that if we're going to stick this out then he needs a bad ass, type A, M'Fer of a S&C coach.