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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I'll out-negative both of you... now back to recruiting, what's our target board look like starting with long shots to actually got a good shot?
    I'm in no way an expert or know what the board will necessarily look like now, Ari/IYOK/Homedawg and others will have a good read on that stuff, but going off of what's been said on 247 for a while, seems like these names might be some we look at going forward:

    OL- Jalen St. John, Quantavious Leslie, Marcus Henderson (but has hinted at wanting to play DL instead of OL), Kahlil Benson, and Dylan Spencer

    OLB- Edgerrin Cooper & Devyn Curtis (if I had to guess, think this will be a spot we really see some new names pop up)

    Sounds like we might look to add an older Safety possibly through the portal and same goes with WR. Or might see Rufus & Alex Adams pick up some steam at WR too.

    Regardless of what HS guys we add in Feb., hopefully there's enough attrition from the current roster that we 100% go after a grad transfer WR in the portal.

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    Can anyone give more information about Selman and Threatt as secondary prospects. They were probably our two least talked about recruits and we took them early despite having a ton of SEC level DB's in MS, AL, LA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irondawg View Post
    Can anyone give more information about Selman and Threatt as secondary prospects. They were probably our two least talked about recruits and we took them early despite having a ton of SEC level DB's in MS, AL, LA.
    Selman was a 4 star until he got injured, or committed to MSU, one or the other. Threatt is a kid that had a pretty good season in the secondary. That's all I've got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Selman was a 4 star until he got injured, or committed to MSU, one or the other. Threatt is a kid that had a pretty good season in the secondary. That's all I've got.
    He was a high 4 star at the beginning, like a 95. Then was a fringe low 4 star right before he committed then just kept falling

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    Hinds CC Rodney Hawkins,Jr. lists himself as WR/DB on Twitter. Announced he will be furthering his football and academic career at MSU.

    Preferred walk-on? Height/weight? Juco stats? Offense or Defense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Selman was a 4 star until he got injured, or committed to MSU, one or the other. Threatt is a kid that had a pretty good season in the secondary. That's all I've got.
    He got injured and went to a camp shortly after his injury. Didn't have a good showing because he was still injured. When healthy he is really good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I don't believe the NCAA allows you to sign and place anymore. That doesn't mean we won't place Adams at Co-Lin. He just may not be in the class.
    We will sign and place Adams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I don't believe the NCAA allows you to sign and place anymore. That doesn't mean we won't place Adams at Co-Lin. He just may not be in the class.

    The NCAA will allow you to sign and place, but when you do, then you can't use that scholarship for any other potential signee. You don't do that very much now (rarely), but Adams is worth the risk.
    Last edited by yjnkdawg; 12-22-2019 at 09:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    The NCAA will allow you to sign and place, but when you do, then you can't use that scholarship for any other potential signee. You don't do that very much now (rarely), but Adams is worth the risk.
    I agree. Especially with our wide receiver situation being what it is. Any way we can get another potential four star immediately or in two years is worth the risk.

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    There's zero point in signing and placing. We're about to be at a scholarship shortage. Adams will go to CoLin and we can sign him later. There's no benefit whatsoever in a sign and place. Just let him do a commitment presser and have his day then let him sign his Juco papers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    There's zero point in signing and placing. We're about to be at a scholarship shortage. Adams will go to CoLin and we can sign him later. There's no benefit whatsoever in a sign and place. Just let him do a commitment presser and have his day then let him sign his Juco papers.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    There's zero point in signing and placing. We're about to be at a scholarship shortage. Adams will go to CoLin and we can sign him later. There's no benefit whatsoever in a sign and place. Just let him do a commitment presser and have his day then let him sign his Juco papers.
    Actually we're typically at a self imposed shortage anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Actually we're typically at a self imposed shortage anyway.
    Wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    There's zero point in signing and placing. We're about to be at a scholarship shortage. Adams will go to CoLin and we can sign him later. There's no benefit whatsoever in a sign and place. Just let him do a commitment presser and have his day then let him sign his Juco papers.
    Absolutely correct, Coot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    The 25 limit is for first-time enrolls, per calendar year; so as long as they had two unused schollys leftover from the previous year (and those two enroll before 2020) they count against the 2019 class not 2020.

    ETA: A grad transfer also wouldn't count toward the 25 since they are not first-time awardees, they only count against the 85..... I think.
    So what is the definition of a first time enrollee? Sounds like it is a player who has not enrolled at any four year college previously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    Wrong
    We undersigned every year except for two since 2011.

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    Here's what I'm in favor of:

    Doing whatever we have to do to get dynamic talent.

    If our coaches think signing and placing Alex Adams gives us the best chance to get him either now or later, then that's what we should do.

    You know who wins games? Teams with dynamic talent. I couldn't careless if we have 80 guys on scholarship or 85. Doesn't matter to me because those last 5 guys don't win or lose you games. Get impact players however you gotta do it. That's what wins games.

    You know I'm right. So don't even attempt to argue this point.
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    Give me Adams and Harvey instead of just Adams. Because that's literally a possibility. I'll take two WRs bs one. And that signing BS doesn't matter to Adams if he knows he's going Juco. He could do a MSU signing presser and sign Juco papers without ever signing with us.
    This isn't hard to figure out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    There's zero point in signing and placing. We're about to be at a scholarship shortage. Adams will go to CoLin and we can sign him later. There's no benefit whatsoever in a sign and place. Just let him do a commitment presser and have his day then let him sign his Juco papers.
    If we don't sign and place him someone else will and we won't get him in 2 years. He is too good to let someone else place him. We are going to sign him because he is still being fed by everyone that they can get him eligible. In 5 months when he finds out he can't get eligible the school that signs him will place him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    If we don't sign and place him someone else will and we won't get him in 2 years. He is too good to let someone else place him. We are going to sign him because he is still being fed by everyone that they can get him eligible. In 5 months when he finds out he can't get eligible the school that signs him will place him.
    +1. That's the only angle that would make sense.

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