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    I wouldn't mind seeing us go after Justin turner for 3b. Isn't Guerrero the future at 3b for them? I think turner could be gotten.

    I'd like Alex Gordon for lf. Offer him good money for 2-3 years. That should give Davidson enough time to get ready.

    And of course, weiters at catcher.

    Peterson -- 2b
    Maybin -- cf
    FF -- 1b
    Weiters -- c
    Gordon -- lf
    Turner -- 3b
    Markakis -- rf
    Simmons -- ss

    I would love this lineup

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    Turner is a good name. He's only under contract for 2016, though, so hopefully we wouldn't be willing to give up too much. But he is mashing this year, so it still might be tough.

    I don't see any way Gordon would sign a 2-3 year deal, assuming someone is offering more.

    I would like to add Wieters for sure, as long as his contract doesn't break the bank. If we're looking for long-term options at 3B or OF, we may have to trade for prospects.

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    #natitude

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Probably, but this is part of the problem with going with almost solely pitching in the minors. Fans talk about being able to trade these guys for hitters, but what kind of legit young hitters are available?

    We need a C, 3B, and OF going into 2016-2017, as you said. But we're either not going to be able to just sign somebody at these spots, or doing so will leave us with some bad deals.

    Kyle Seager is a potential option at 3B in a trade, but his contract skyrockets in 2018. Arenado is untouchable. It's going to be tough.

    I might go as far as Maybin, Peraza, Wood, Folty, and Ruiz in an offer for Rendon. If that didn't do it, then our best bet may just be to put Peraza at 3B for next year and bring back Uribe as insurance.
    nats aren't trading rendon for a bunch of pieces they don't need. nats have plenty of arms, and even plenty of young arms even if they trade or let strasburg and/or zimm walk soon. ross has looked great in his starts. roark is a solid back end of the rotation guy. then giolito and cole in the minors. so folty and wood aren't needs at all.

    nats aren't dumb enough to view maybin as a highly valuable piece. plus michael taylor has been solid in his 1st extended exposure in the bigs and brian goodwin is coming along in a year or 2. even if the nats go outside the organization, they can find a player the caliber of maybin without giving up rendon.

    pereza looks like a future big leaguer, but probably not as good as rendon, and the nats have trea turner coming in the ML to play SS too, so rendon + trea turner are 2 of 2B/SS/3B of the future.

    in other words, the nats aren't going to bite on a deal for a bunch of lesser pieces comparable to or less than internal options. not for a all-star caliber 2B/3B under team control until 2020. nats aren't in a position of needing to deal 1 player for a multiple player haul.

    as for trading arms for bats, you gotta find guys a lot closer to free agency to do it, then be willing to hand them a new deal. or make a 1 for 1 trade like the heyward/miller deal this past offseason. but you can't package a lot of lower ceiling guys for 1 all-star stud with 4 seasons of team control playing for a franchise that's already stacked with young talent and a decent farm system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgs View Post
    #natitude
    Yeah, you guys are better, but you better enjoy this run you're on. Nl east will be between the mets and Braves for years to come.

    Aren't you glad Desmond refused that 100 million contract?

    I know it's a few years away, but what do you think chances are you sign Harper? I say no way. He's gonna be a dodger, Yankee, or bosox. Think you guys end up trading him for a huge package?
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    I like Matt Wieters, but I don't like giving a big money, long term contract to a 29 year old catcher. The Braves should have just resigned Brian McCann if they plan on signing Matt Wieters. I think McCann is missed in the locker room much more than some thought he would be. He was a leader, and the lack of leadership on last year's team was a major reason that team did not meet expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Probably, but this is part of the problem with going with almost solely pitching in the minors. Fans talk about being able to trade these guys for hitters, but what kind of legit young hitters are available?

    We need a C, 3B, and OF going into 2016-2017, as you said. But we're either not going to be able to just sign somebody at these spots, or doing so will leave us with some bad deals.

    Kyle Seager is a potential option at 3B in a trade, but his contract skyrockets in 2018. Arenado is untouchable. It's going to be tough.

    I might go as far as Maybin, Peraza, Wood, Folty, and Ruiz in an offer for Rendon. If that didn't do it, then our best bet may just be to put Peraza at 3B for next year and bring back Uribe as insurance.
    No way. I'm not giving up that much for a position player. An elite pitcher? Yes, but I'm not willing to do another Mark Teixiera deal. Especially when you are including two guys who I believe will be stalwarts in the pitching rotation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Yeah, you guys are better, but you better enjoy this run you're on. Nl east will be between the mets and Braves for years to come.

    Aren't you glad Desmond refused that 100 million contract?

    I know it's a few years away, but what do you think chances are you sign Harper? I say no way. He's gonna be a dodger, Yankee, or bosox. Think you guys end up trading him for a huge package?
    I think Harper resigns. Nats have as much money as anyone and the lerner's aren't scared to spend it (unlike braves' ownership). Idea that the yanks, sawx, and Dodgers (only since magic's group took over ownership) will pay big money is ridiculous. He will hit free agency with a solid 5+ years of traditional peak age window left in them, and I can't imagine the franchise doesn't do everything they can to keep them. It won't come down to money, it'll be whether they just want to leave or not. You don't let generational talent go at 26 over money.

    And yeah, Desmond screwed himself. Though I wonder if he's struggling so much because he's pressing? Nats also made a great move grabbing turner in the offseason to be the SS of the future. 2016 will probably be a stopgap SS at least initially with turner hopefully coming up later in the year and ideally taking the job and running with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgs View Post
    I think Harper resigns. Nats have as much money as anyone and the lerner's aren't scared to spend it (unlike braves' ownership). Idea that the yanks, sawx, and Dodgers (only since magic's group took over ownership) will pay big money is ridiculous. He will hit free agency with a solid 5+ years of traditional peak age window left in them, and I can't imagine the franchise doesn't do everything they can to keep them. It won't come down to money, it'll be whether they just want to leave or not. You don't let generational talent go at 26 over money.

    And yeah, Desmond screwed himself. Though I wonder if he's struggling so much because he's pressing? Nats also made a great move grabbing turner in the offseason to be the SS of the future. 2016 will probably be a stopgap SS at least initially with turner hopefully coming up later in the year and ideally taking the job and running with it.
    I don't doubt the nats will spend the money on Harper. I just doubt Harper resigns. I think he wants to be on a bigger stage.

    ** I'm entirely speculating. Harper could be very happy to finish a nat

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I don't doubt the nats will spend the money on Harper. I just doubt Harper resigns. I think he wants to be on a bigger stage.

    ** I'm entirely speculating. Harper could be very happy to finish a nat
    He has stated publicly that his childhood dream has been to wear the pin stripes. They have a left handed hitters haven and will spend the money needed...he'll be a Yankee.

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    @mbraves
    ROSTER MOVES: OF Sean Godfrey promoted to @mbraves from High-A Carolina. C Steve Rodriguez activated off the DL. INF Seth Loman released.

    @BravesReddit
    Godfrey is having himself a fine year. .304/.331/.425

    Replaces Mallex Smith in CF for the MBraves

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    @Braves
    Congrats @albiesozhaino, SS with @TheRomeBraves, selected to World Team roster in the MLB All-Star Futures Game

    ...

    It's gonna be very interesting where he's ranked in our next prospect ranking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    @Braves
    Congrats @albiesozhaino, SS with @TheRomeBraves, selected to World Team roster in the MLB All-Star Futures Game

    ...

    It's gonna be very interesting where he's ranked in our next prospect ranking.
    Woah. He has to be one of the youngest guys to ever play in that game...right?

    ETA: After looking, Julio Urias pitched in it last year as a 17-year-old. But Albies may be the youngest otherwise. Harper and Trout were both several months older when they played in it. Regardless, that's good company to be in.
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    Braves Lineup:
    Peterson 2B
    Maybin CF
    Markakis RF
    Pierzynski C
    Terdoslavich 1B
    K Johnson 3B
    Gomes LF
    Ciriaco SS
    Wisler P

    What goes thru Fredi's head? Rookie pitcher on the mound in a huge game... I know... Let's rest Simmons (best ss in the game), our best 3b (uribe), and put our worst lf (Gomes) out there. Does this make sense to anyone?

    Last night with CJ on 2nd with 2 outs and a lhp in the game, Fredi doesn't use Gomes in place of Kelly. Let's save Gomes for a rhp.

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    I'd just settle for knowing why a guy with 0 HRs on the season is consistently batting in the 3 & 4 holes. We way overpaid Markakis for what we're getting at the plate.
    It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22


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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    I'd just settle for knowing why a guy with 0 HRs on the season is consistently batting in the 3 & 4 holes. We way overpaid Markakis for what we're getting at the plate.
    0 hr's, but he does have 16 doubles. Hopefully he picks up a few hr's... Like today

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    I'd just settle for knowing why a guy with 0 HRs on the season is consistently batting in the 3 & 4 holes. We way overpaid Markakis for what we're getting at the plate.
    Markakis isn't that different than what he's been with the Orioles the last few years. He just never developed into a power hitter at all. He was never expected to be Bryce Harper type power, but 20-25 with a ton of doubles was reasonable to expect and he just never got there.

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    In the words of Jesus... It is finished.

    Hart, trade anyone veteran someone will take. We're done so I hope this team completely collapses so we can get rid of fredi.

    Hart isn't stupid. If myself and thousands of brave fans can see fredi is a dope, there's no way hart doesn't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    In the words of Jesus... It is finished.

    Hart, trade anyone veteran someone will take. We're done so I hope this team completely collapses so we can get rid of fredi.

    Hart isn't stupid. If myself and thousands of brave fans can see fredi is a dope, there's no way hart doesn't see it.
    If fredi has a buyout, just let him manage next season too. Then when y'all are ready to compete go get the manager you want. Just make sure fredi doesn't blow out any arms or screw up development until then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgs View Post
    If fredi has a buyout, just let him manage next season too. Then when y'all are ready to compete go get the manager you want. Just make sure fredi doesn't blow out any arms or screw up development until then.
    Fredi is in the last year of his contract. He won't be fired... Just not retained. Pretty sure that's right

    What do you think as a non-fan of the Braves? Is fredi good or what? Am I giving him too tough a time?

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