this is beyond stupid at this point, either crap or get off the pot. You have a job do it. If Arnett coaches the EB Selmon needs to be unemployed as well.
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this is beyond stupid at this point, either crap or get off the pot. You have a job do it. If Arnett coaches the EB Selmon needs to be unemployed as well.
If we fire Selmon, we need to fire the guy who hired him….seriously scorch the damn earth at this pointQuote:
Originally Posted by redstickdawg
He let a 6-4 bowl eligible school who destroyed us by 40 beat him to firing the coach. And A&Mediocre had to come up with $70 million to do it.
Strike 1 Zac; we're waiting and the clock is ticking.
I don't care who the ad is but firing him now makes ZERO difference except making some people in the internet happy. That's allQuote:
Originally Posted by redstickdawg
Isn't the purpose of the athletic department to make the fans happy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
It's not some objective, scientific calculation of how good a coach is, it's about keeping fans happy. Mullen and Leach didn't really have any better first seasons than Arnett (I mean, they did in my eyes, but record and FPI-wise, you can argue that), but fans were happy with those, so they stayed. Fans are incredibly unhappy with Arnett, so he's got to go. If somehow fans were fine with this season, Arnett would stay.
I thought that too but I'm honestly think if we fired him, Brock, and Barbay and let the Rogers call whatever offense in game we would be better
Will...really? Just finished watching Varsity Blues again didn't you.Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
I disagree to the max. Keeping him makes a world of difference. We already know or at least strongly believe he's not the guy. Beyond that, it's pretty clear this is one of the worst coaching jobs any of us have ever seen. In the professional level almost all teams see a spike in wins after firing coaches midseason. I know that's not the same, but I bet its the same in college. The team has given up on him. The fans have given up on him. Recruits are giving up on him and it'll get worse. We need the coaching world to know our job is open right now. We need to be interviewing right now and have our new coach lined up by the end of the regular season, not starting at the end of the season. It only gets worse by waiting in every way possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I agree. If we do, I'm fine with it at this point but making a good hire is all that matters and most of the board will forget when we fired him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Did you watch us score 3 offensive points last night? It was a tongue in cheek comment but i could have called a better game than Barbay. He's terrible
It happens all the time and it would probably improve the attitude and effort on the team. Ow would it translate to a W? Maybe, but not guaranteed. Other teams fire their coach or coordinators mid season, but we have to put up with it for the entire season because we are MSU? Don?t let that mentality get to youQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
You are 100% correct and it gives the new coach a chance to save some players in the class as well as possibly keeping some current players from the portal if they buy in to the new coach, but the less time there is for that less likely that is to happenQuote:
Originally Posted by sleepy dawg
You don't think the power brokers might wanna get out of church first LOL. I'm thinking I would fire him later today or tomorrow morning myself. And I don't go to church. And if I have a coach already lined up, not in a huge hurry then.
But then ... we're MSU and if it can be FUBAR'd more than it is now, we can do it *
I mean do we want to have State fans show up to the next two games or not. I was planning to go to both at the start of this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Im not gonna rush down to see the USM game. Im planning to be in the egg bowl for maybe a quarter.
I think I speak for the average out of town state fan.
Aggy ain't wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Situation is a little different with them. No one expected them to payout Jimbo's buyout. Even then ... what's the difference in 4 or 5 hours?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
People's decision making and planning.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
I disagree. We can’t risk him going 2-0. Also, we need to let recruits and current players know that we are moving on and that there is hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Hate to break it to you but this ain't like the USA has armies/navies surrounding us about to invade. There's nothing that time critical in these coaching changes. Now it probably needs to be done this week or maybe even as early as tomorrow, but the world doesn't stop/end on CFB alone LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tater
Nah. Prior to last night, I might have agreed with you, but there's no way we can let him coach these last two games. The level of incompetence is the worst I've ever seenQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
The reading comprehension within this site is not helping the education image of MS. Jimbo has not been fired. They are just leaking reports that he won't be retained. He will coach Saturday just like Arnette.
For what Selmon cares about it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Every minute he waits is less people going to the USM game. This affects the school's bottom line.
The reports I?m reading is that he is out today and will not coach any more games this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
I have to disagree Homedawg. It's doesn't matter IMO. Keeping him done just creates more drama the last few games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Maybe it?s your comprehension. They?ve already named an interim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Yeah.........Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Nobody is going to buy a ticket to it, only season ticket holders will come...... we aren't losing a dollar. .... now if you own a business in Starkville maybe so. ButQuote:
Originally Posted by Tater
You have that right. Everyone knows how this ends. So why the work up?? He's not gonna be the coach here next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Appreciate you Homedawg, but that's exactly why you should make the move now. Everyone including him knows it's coming. The players know it too. Pretending like it's not inevitable is embarrassing to everyone involved, including Arnett.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
It's going to get worse before it gets better, but ripping off the bandaid now lets people look forward without all the gnashing of teeth. Energy can go towards an optimistic future instead of the disappointing present.
It would be great if people didn't get so worked up with him still the coach since we know he's gone soon, but that's just not how it goes. It's time to look forward.
Exactly, I also like Homedawg, good guy but he is wrong on keeping a dead-beat Coach another couple of games. Like I said, it will just drum up more drama, at least firing him now we can discuss who will be our next Coach which is way more interesting than watching Arnett on the sideline with his arms folded.Quote:
Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg
We can fire Arnett now but we are not going to have another hire until after the Egg Bowl at the earliest, unless it's Mullen. I do agree we need to go ahead and pull the plug but people acting like we're going to announce a new coach before the end of the week are not living in reality. We can fire him, but we are still on the same timeline. We still can only talk to agents until the regular season ends.
I really don't care if we fire him now nor wait.
I'm more concerned that we have a MoU (memorandum of understanding) with our new coach signed asap. Before the carousel gets going and we miss out.
Like Cohen did with Jans. Get it done now before the season ends.
exactly. Firing him today accomplishes nothingQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Jans did not sign anything until Sunday morning after they were eliminated. We didn't even meet with him personally until then. Now we had been talking to his agent for a few days. The only reason I say that we need to go ahead and pull the plug is that I'm genuinely afraid we may lose Saturday if Arnett is on the sidelines. He has mailed it in and the team is taking that attitude from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
The team didnt mail it in until we kept giving A&M the ball inside our 40 over and over. QB play is the problem
This team mailed it in sometime during the 1st half of Auburn. Also, our biggest problems have headsets on. Our second biggest problems are the one's standing behind Arnett with clipboards. Then there is the defensive disaster and then finally you get to the QB problemQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
nahhhh- it always starts with the QB. Ask Bill Belichick about life since Brady leftQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Hell- Jimbo got fired because of the QB's he has run out there during his tenure
QB play is not the problem... FRIGGIN COACHING IS!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34