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Selmon needs to act or get fired
this is beyond stupid at this point, either crap or get off the pot. You have a job do it. If Arnett coaches the EB Selmon needs to be unemployed as well.
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Originally Posted by
redstickdawg
this is beyond stupid at this point, either crap or get off the pot. You have a job do it. If Arnett coaches the EB Selmon needs to be unemployed as well.
If we fire Selmon, we need to fire the guy who hired him….seriously scorch the damn earth at this point
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He let a 6-4 bowl eligible school who destroyed us by 40 beat him to firing the coach. And A&Mediocre had to come up with $70 million to do it.
Strike 1 Zac; we're waiting and the clock is ticking.
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Originally Posted by
redstickdawg
this is beyond stupid at this point, either crap or get off the pot. You have a job do it. If Arnett coaches the EB Selmon needs to be unemployed as well.
I don't care who the ad is but firing him now makes ZERO difference except making some people in the internet happy. That's all
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I don't care who the ad is but firing him now makes ZERO difference except making some people in the internet happy. That's all
Isn't the purpose of the athletic department to make the fans happy?
It's not some objective, scientific calculation of how good a coach is, it's about keeping fans happy. Mullen and Leach didn't really have any better first seasons than Arnett (I mean, they did in my eyes, but record and FPI-wise, you can argue that), but fans were happy with those, so they stayed. Fans are incredibly unhappy with Arnett, so he's got to go. If somehow fans were fine with this season, Arnett would stay.
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I thought that too but I'm honestly think if we fired him, Brock, and Barbay and let the Rogers call whatever offense in game we would be better
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Originally Posted by
civildawg
I thought that too but I'm honestly think if we fired him, Brock, and Barbay and let the Rogers call whatever offense in game we would be better
Will...really? Just finished watching Varsity Blues again didn't you.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I don't care who the ad is but firing him now makes ZERO difference except making some people in the internet happy. That's all
I disagree to the max. Keeping him makes a world of difference. We already know or at least strongly believe he's not the guy. Beyond that, it's pretty clear this is one of the worst coaching jobs any of us have ever seen. In the professional level almost all teams see a spike in wins after firing coaches midseason. I know that's not the same, but I bet its the same in college. The team has given up on him. The fans have given up on him. Recruits are giving up on him and it'll get worse. We need the coaching world to know our job is open right now. We need to be interviewing right now and have our new coach lined up by the end of the regular season, not starting at the end of the season. It only gets worse by waiting in every way possible.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I don't care who the ad is but firing him now makes ZERO difference except making some people in the internet happy. That's all
I agree. If we do, I'm fine with it at this point but making a good hire is all that matters and most of the board will forget when we fired him.
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Did you watch us score 3 offensive points last night? It was a tongue in cheek comment but i could have called a better game than Barbay. He's terrible
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I don't care who the ad is but firing him now makes ZERO difference except making some people in the internet happy. That's all
It happens all the time and it would probably improve the attitude and effort on the team. Ow would it translate to a W? Maybe, but not guaranteed. Other teams fire their coach or coordinators mid season, but we have to put up with it for the entire season because we are MSU? Don?t let that mentality get to you
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Originally Posted by
sleepy dawg
I disagree to the max. Keeping him makes a world of difference. We already know or at least strongly believe he's not the guy. Beyond that, it's pretty clear this is one of the worst coaching jobs any of us have ever seen. In the professional level almost all teams see a spike in wins after firing coaches midseason. I know that's not the same, but I bet it’s the same in college. The team has given up on him. The fans have given up on him. Recruits are giving up on him and it'll get worse. We need the coaching world to know our job is open right now. We need to be interviewing right now and have our new coach lined up by the end of the regular season, not starting at the end of the season. It only gets worse by waiting in every way possible.
You are 100% correct and it gives the new coach a chance to save some players in the class as well as possibly keeping some current players from the portal if they buy in to the new coach, but the less time there is for that less likely that is to happen
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You don't think the power brokers might wanna get out of church first LOL. I'm thinking I would fire him later today or tomorrow morning myself. And I don't go to church. And if I have a coach already lined up, not in a huge hurry then.
But then ... we're MSU and if it can be FUBAR'd more than it is now, we can do it *
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I don't care who the ad is but firing him now makes ZERO difference except making some people in the internet happy. That's all
I mean do we want to have State fans show up to the next two games or not. I was planning to go to both at the start of this season.
Im not gonna rush down to see the USM game. Im planning to be in the egg bowl for maybe a quarter.
I think I speak for the average out of town state fan.
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
You don't think the power brokers might wanna get out of church first LOL. I'm thinking I would fire him later today or tomorrow morning myself. And I don't go to church. And if I have a coach already lined up, not in a huge hurry then.
But then ... we're MSU and if it can be FUBAR'd more than it is now, we can do it *
Aggy ain't wait.
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Originally Posted by
Tater
Aggy ain't wait.
Situation is a little different with them. No one expected them to payout Jimbo's buyout. Even then ... what's the difference in 4 or 5 hours?
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Originally Posted by
dawgday166
Situation is a little different with them. No one expected them to payout Jimbo's buyout. Even then ... what's the difference in 4 or 5 hours?
People's decision making and planning.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I don't care who the ad is but firing him now makes ZERO difference except making some people in the internet happy. That's all
I disagree. We can’t risk him going 2-0. Also, we need to let recruits and current players know that we are moving on and that there is hope.
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Originally Posted by
Tater
People's decision making and planning.
Hate to break it to you but this ain't like the USA has armies/navies surrounding us about to invade. There's nothing that time critical in these coaching changes. Now it probably needs to be done this week or maybe even as early as tomorrow, but the world doesn't stop/end on CFB alone LOL.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I don't care who the ad is but firing him now makes ZERO difference except making some people in the internet happy. That's all
Nah. Prior to last night, I might have agreed with you, but there's no way we can let him coach these last two games. The level of incompetence is the worst I've ever seen
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