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Supposedly, there was a dust up between Garrett Shrader and Willie Gay in practice. There are rumors ranging from it being nothing to WG6 swelling GS's eye shut. Either way, I'm fine with it. It's football and these things happen. Maybe it'll instill some toughness.
GS must not be that bright though. Willie Gay is probably the last person on that team I'd try to take on.
Thank goodness.
We need more of this. Builds continuity, respect, and a savage mentality.
Most all good teams have fights. It’s a sign that the players passionately care
You are basing the "supposedly" on the thread at SPS?Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Rumor on sps says shrader was suspended for ark game bc of fighting.
That and Steve Robertson on 247.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Cool. What did Steve have to say about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Said it happened after practice and that the rumors going around are exaggerated.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Fights happen all the time in football. Maybe if it had happened in August the team would have been a more physical team.
I think the key here is whether it happened during practice, immediately after while still on the field, or well after practice has ended. If it is the latter, cannot really say it was just a heat of the moment practice dust up.
I heard Willie slapped him so hard that GS beard now looks like Randy Wastons hair with Soul Glow in it...
Stolen from another board but..
"Willie said "Yall's offense got no chemistry!"
GS said "At least we do our own chemistry."
In that case:Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Shrader - 1
Willie - 0
I tend to agree, except I feel like those sort of fights are during practice and born out of competitiveness. By all accounts this was immediately after practice concluded, still on the field but with helmets off. Not exactly a time when you expect fisticuffs to break out involving your starting QB and maybe your best player on defense. I'm not saying it's detrimental or anything, but I also don't think it's a good thing in this context. Seems like one or both of them had to have been acting like an idiot for this to have happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Agree. But it'll still end up being a positive in some wayQuote:
Originally Posted by RiverCityDawg
True, there financially seems to be a pecking order established on the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
What?? This was over a chemistry test?***Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
If what I'm hearing is correct, Willie did something in practice that Garrett told him would draw a flag during a game.
Willie didn't like that and gave him a black eye.
Given Willie's history in games, Garrett was probably right.
Steve is now saying that Garret will be assessed in Nashville. It’s not just a dustup. Garret got 17ed up and it’s more serious than he reported.
If this is true, either Willie has a Mike Tyson right hook OR Joe and his staff have zero control. Fights are going to happen that's part of it but when your starting QB is going to have to be "assessed" prior to the bowl game that tells me this is way beyond competitive tension between two teammates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Ruckus
Just another black eye for SloMo.
We have a clown running this team. It's more apparent every day that it ain't gettin no better.
Sounds plausible.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Considering half the “people with sources” say it’s on Shrader and the other half say Willie, I’m guessing nobody knows a damn thing
If Joe can't be the controlling force on this team, then if he wants any chance of surviving he better hire someone to handle it for him. You know, I see something like the video of him talking to the new signees and their parents and think to myself, man, I hope he pulls through this. And then I hear of situations similar to this and think to myself, man, I wish we had gotten rid of him when we had the chance. And in between the two, I have no idea what to think.
Where were the OL to back up their QB? The entire situation seems odd.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Moorhead can't stop a punch from being thrown, or even a beatdown from happening. If a LB jumped on the starting qb after being suspended for most of the season, I think he'd be packing his bags already for his next endeavors. If it was a fight, that's a bit different. I don't believe the reports of ocular damage or being physically questionable for the bowl. People are trying to add drama there.
The truth is probably in the middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluelightstar
The only rumor I have heard that might explain some of this is that the upperclassmen haven't bought into Joe and don't like him as much the underclassmen like him. Some of this kind of reminds me of Cohen's first two years to be honest with you. Next year most of the team will be his recruits so if he can't turn it around with his guys- and he may not- he is in trouble. I imagine that this was a factor in Cohen bringing him back and giving him another chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips
The coach is responsible for setting a culture that dictates that teammates don't do things like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
As far as what you don't believe....you'd better believe it because it's 100% true.
Well, dude on sps is adamant.... adamant What he heard is true....Shrader has a fracture from the scuffle and is out for the game.
If that is true.... my gosh.... this has been the weirdest season played by the most disfunctional team that I can ever remember. How the he'll you going to knock your own QB out of the game in
Practice? Damn! Who is playing QB... 17?
Jezzzz what a season.
If he's out I bet Joe goes with Stevens. Either way whether it's Shrader, Stevens, KT, Todd4State, Mike Pizinski- they're going to be handing the ball off to Kylin about 75% of the time probably. And then Gibson about the other 15%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
I will say this if that's true
If I'm an NFL GM and I see that Willie Gay is an unsportsmanlike conduct machine, was suspended for 2/3's of a season for cheating in a gimme class, and severely injured his starting QB in a post practice fight, I'm going to be hesitant to pull the trigger on him no matter how talented he is.
He's an elite talent but he's a bonehead who makes boneheaded decisions. And I'm not taking up for GS bc I simply don't know the facts or if he did something to deserve it. But this has potentially turned into something far more serious that just a "dust up"
Gay is getting close to the point for me where I wonder whether it's worth having him come back or not. He simply can not control his emotions. There are things that sometimes don't get seen too- like Kody Schexnader dragging his ass off the field before Gay got called for celebrating and Gay arguing with a coach on the sideline before he got flagged for celebrating excessively as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Yep. I'm hearing Shrader's eye was swollen shut and his orbital bone is fractured.
I think Kylin gets his 45 yards for the season rushing record and then stays on the sideline the rest of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
No need to risk injury just a few months before the combine.
I doubt it. These guys are competitors.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Didn't Ray Lewis kill a guy? Scouts get over BS if you're talented enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Yeah blame Willie for a fight based off of a rumor sounds legit. The fact that no other player jumped in tells you all that's needed. Well, I guess not for guys who don't understand football culture.
And big Ben raped a girl and is still playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by defiantdog
I was told by the A$$ Whipper, himself it happened...
And no suspension. Would be nice to see KT play @ QB...
It would be great to see KT play!Quote:
Originally Posted by Reunion Dog
Ah football culture lol. No, it's sissy culture. Getting feelings hurt by words and then lashing out cause you might have been embarrassed? Willie has shown not to be the sharpest tool in the shed. We should've kicked him out when we had the chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28