And we rushed for 2 yards or less on all 14 1st down rushes! We faced 2nd and 8 or longer a whopping 14 times last Saturday. Not good. The O Line must get much better push, but when the D knows what is coming it is much easier to defend.
Way too predictable! Mix in a few passes on 1st down, please Joe.
Fitz making the wrong reads
Yep and he threw the ball to hard to guidry on the pickQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We just going to ignore the fact that we were either playing a QB with a hurt shoulder or a true freshman for all of those drives? Feels kind of significant. It’s perfectly logical to rely heavily on your running game on a day when your passing isn’t what you want it to be.
14/15 probably is higher than it needs to be, but would you have preferred we aired it out more? The passing game obviously wasn’t working for us.
Thought we run an RPO like every play. Perhaps the defense baited us into runsQuote:
Originally Posted by Captain Falcon
Don't any of you know anything about football, the call is at the line it's all box count. You either have numbers or not, so it's either run or pass depending on the number of men in the tackle box.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Falcon
But yes the offense line got their ass whipped last week, the are large and slow.
Offensive Savant.
Except Hill tweeted Monday about eight in the box all game long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
wait for it......... but will it ever happen?
probably? do you guys just defend everything?Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Falcon
We didn't have the numbers. It's ok to constantly pump sunshine if you really believe it. But why pump sunshine just for the heck of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Like you said ... Fitz making wrong reads. Also throwing uncatchable ball on the drops too.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
ETA: Tommy would've made NFL reads *** Easy there dantheman haha.
How bout lets try something besides the same two running plays. A toss sweep,jet sweep ,quick pitch etc. Looks like shrader could run the option as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Falcon
But the moorhead O doesn't use plays such as those........He said we had a TE but i'm not sure anymore and I'm not sure the TE helped in the blocking situation last saturday. This is hard to watch
I am anything but a sunshine pumper, just saying what I observed.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
But, but you and Shotgun started 15,000 threads last year that we needed to RTGDB!!! Now that we are, you're still not happy!***Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Sarcasm works both ways.
When the most successful offensive play is a roll out and dodge 2 defenders and then sling the ball side armed to a receiver who has to contort his body in such a way just to touch the ball then it ain't the result of a designed QB progression. that is what we call a busted play, which is legal in football but one can't survive on them alone
I'll admit that I thought the O line would be a strength this season but man was I wrong. this kinda kills the run the ball bidness
I’m squaring of the belief this offense either isn’t food or Jo is struggling with play calling and needs an OC.
I?m of the belief this offense either isn?t good or Jo is struggling with play calling and needs an OC.
good point worthy of discussion
OP is a liar and should be ashamed.
1st & 10 at MSST 8
(10:10 - 4th) Kylin Hill run for 6 yds to the MisSt 14
2nd & 4 at MSST 14
(9:49 - 4th) Kylin Hill run for 2 yds to the MisSt 16
3rd & 2 at MSST 16
(9:02 - 4th) Garrett Shrader pass incomplete
4th & 2 at MSST 16
(8:55 - 4th) Tucker Day punt for 37 yds, fair catch by Phillip Brooks at the KanSt 47
The rest of y'all should be ashamed for not having Sean McVay like memory and knowing how false of a statement this was. Especially when the drive in question was so pivotal that we didn't run it on 3rd down but instead had a pass thrown behind a receiver and dropped.
This "fact" OP posted is just so horribly wrong.
1st & 10 at KSU 45
(9:53 - 2nd) Kylin Hill run for 5 yds to the KanSt 40
1st & 10 at KSU 18
(8:34 - 2nd) Kylin Hill run for 3 yds to the KanSt 15
1st & Goal at KSU 4
(6:41 - 2nd) Kylin Hill run for 3 yds to the KanSt 1
Just adding them as I find them
1st & 10 at MSST 38
(0:31 - 2nd) Tommy Stevens run for 4 yds to the KanSt 38 for a 1ST down KANSAS ST Penalty, Personal Foul (15 Yards) to the KanSt 47 for a 1ST down
1st & 10 at 50
(9:37 - 3rd) Kylin Hill run for 11 yds to the KanSt 39 for a 1ST down
1st & 10 at KSU 39
(9:01 - 3rd) Kylin Hill run for 9 yds to the KanSt 30
1st & Goal at KSU 5
(4:47 - 3rd) Garrett Shrader run for 5 yds for a TD, (Jace Christmann KICK)
1st & 10 at KSU 43
(1:26 - 3rd) Kylin Hill run for 10 yds to the KanSt 33 for a 1ST down
1st & 10 at MSST 25
(5:20 - 4th) Garrett Shrader run for 12 yds to the MisSt 37 for a 1ST down
1st & 10 at KSU 45
(3:59 - 4th) Kylin Hill run for 16 yds to the KanSt 29 for a 1ST down
1st & 10 at MSST 20
(0:23 - 4th) Garrett Shrader run for 11 yds to the MisSt 31 for a 1ST down
1st & 10 at MSST 31
(0:07 - 4th) Garrett Shrader run for 4 yds to the MisSt 40 Kylin Hill
glad to see why the O is sputtering so. bet these SEC DT will take it easy on us
And for those wanting to say OP meant we had a possession where a first down run went form 2 or less yards... that happened on only 10 out of our 15 possessions.
The fact that you have to make up stats to hate on the coach... there's plenty of material that members of this board will let you know about. Making up something is pathetic.
ETA: Posting a stat like this screams “I’m a box score fan” and shows everyone to not take your football related opinions seriously because who knows if you even watched the game.
I’m not opposed to some variety in the running game, but we have the SEC’s leading rusher who is averaging almost 7 yards per carry and leads the nation in runs of 10 yards or more. We also had our backup QB rush for almost 100 yards in a half on over 8 yards a carry.
Like I said, I’d be fine with us mixing it up some more, but it’s not like our running game hasn’t been working.
I hear ya. He missed some of those opening drive possessions. But saying “only” for a 67% fail is also kind of planting a skewed thought in a readers mind as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman4248
Well it’s not really a fail if 3 out of those 10 were scoring drives. 30% of drives we had a 1st down run of 2 or less yards at any point in the possession we scored on. 20% of drives we didn’t have a run like that we scored on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
He was only talking about the opening play of a drive. Regardless of the outcome of the entire possession, 67% of the time it was not a positive opening play.Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman4248
Thats a good point. It did feel like we were falling into a very predictable scheme.Quote:
Originally Posted by biggun
Then that makes its 9/15 we opened a drive with a run of 2 or less. 1 incompletion, 1 12 yard completion, 4 runs of 4 or more yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
The point is that the OP posted blatantly false statistics. I have a problem with that. Clear spreading of misinformation is not good.
ETA: It’s damning showing how many people have blindly accepted this false statistic. Shocking some people I would trust to watch with a closer eye than to believe something this ludicrous.
What's going to piss you off even more is when this is thrown out again in other threads, even weeks down the road. Been here too long to see misinformation read and then regurgitated as gospel.Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman4248
Anyone who spits out this statement as fact tells me everything I need to know about that person's opinion of football: that they got it from the message board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
Wish I could tag users like on reddit to keep up with the idiots that repeat this ad nauseam. You're definitely right that this isn't the last of the statistic we've seen.
Sad part is, once I looked at the game, I'm irked again that we didn't run the ball more down the end of the game.
I sit in a seat and do my own evaluating and then listen to the coaches explanation. I do not need any thought police to act critical of what an actual flawed process is. I do hope that Kentucky sux and that it was a fluke that they almost beat florida. We are a messy work in progress on offense and I think we took a pretty good hit with a couple of the new coaches on D.
Explosive play calling.**Quote:
Originally Posted by biggun
Last year you wanted to run the ball. This year you want to throw the ball. You bitch like a woman.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Even worse than a woman. He tries to twist everything to try to fit his narrative.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog7
After years of watching Lee, Relf, Russell, Prescott, Fitz up the middle on every third and whatever, you would think we'd appreciate some different players getting the ball. There was nothing more predictable than what Mullen was running. My 9 yo daughter knew Dak and Fitz were going run the ball.
Getting so oldQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The fact that A. so many still believe this incorrect statistic and B. neglect to read any of the thread that shows it being disproven is just sad.