I know he started this board and I'm thankful for that, but he's making this board unreadable.
I know he started this board and I'm thankful for that, but he's making this board unreadable.
Lol. Joe might have to earn his way out of this one. He wins 8-10 games this season and people will be happy.
Joe wins 8 regular season games in a not flukey way, and I will certainly change my tune on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
What you got against flukey?
Would you count dropping balls like Guidry and Mitchell did flukey? I sure as hell would.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Nothing, I'll take any wins we can get (haha). If we go into to auburn this year though and win bc they fumbled 4 straight kickoffs or something crazy like that though, I don't really see that as a sustainable way of winning. I'd certainly take it thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Schultzy
don't take sports so seriously. It's actually pretty funny. Joe was was below average last year as an offensive coordinator.
Not when they continued to do it. Would you consider fitz hitting them in the hands flukey? LolQuote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
I call it recruiting. Thanks Dano.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
Mullen catches waaay too much hell here, but wr talent is the one area where he certainly should be blamedQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
And the fact that we had like 7 TEs last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I don’t think Dan catches enough hell...... just one competent WR on last years team and we win 10 games. Further more, had he recruited WR period when he was here there would have been a good chance that when he left the cupboard wouldn’t have been so bare.
Yes, Moorhead had some head scratchers and you can’t deny that, however referring to him in any way whatsoever to Sly Croom is by far the most idiotic thing that has ever been posted on this board.
Yeah tend to agree a little. Not sure if he deserves after one year but what he did last year with the talent he had was almost worth 2 bad years. I still think he can get it done. Another Ned and first reader on O and the Jovester will start to stick. I'm not going there yet. I say we light it up this year on O. Don't let us down Jo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
The name of the position is receiver. If you can't receive the 2 balls on a regular basis that Mitchell and Guidry missed with very limited coaching then I don't know what else to tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Dropping those passes was flukey, especially when you consider some of the other much more difficult passes Mitchell and Guidry caught a few times last year.
Those 2 drops were flukey 100% if you use that as the basis of comparison for being good, which msstate 7 is. I wonder if he would rather be 7-5 with 5 solid losses or 8-4 with one of those wins being a kicker missing a 20 yard FG to lose the game to us. Is that flukey? What the hell does a flukey win look like?
It's a bullshit stance so he can play both sides to say he was right no matter what happens.
Yeah, but your stance that if we make 2 catches we win is kind of BS too. AU Fumbled on the 1 inch yard line. Stidham over threw a wide open receiver. Guidry had a "flukey" catch and run vs A&M. Our offense was horrible all year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
What?? Mullen only won and average of 7Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
He ****in won 8 last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
with a team that should have won at least 10Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach007
Yeah you want Joe to fail for sure. Those same things you said about go for Auburn too. Just because they make those plus doesn't necessarily mean they win.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
You win games and you lose games. Anyone that qualifies a win as flukey isn't looking for truth. They just want to be correct at the expense of the team.
Yeah.. we know you could have done better.... which Is why I encourage you to apply for the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Would you call A&M dropping 10+ passes a fluke? Or auburn fumbling going into the end zone? It's amazing how people just remember the drops or bad stuff that happens to us. Those two games are different if those things don't happen. But I'm not giving them back.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
And that goes back to Mullen's WR recruiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Offensive tackle?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Actually, turnovers are fairly random events so basically you probably can consider a turnover a fluke to a degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I do agree that our fans are more "rational" in that they sometimes put down our wins because something happened during the game like that and we capitalized on it. But the reality is that happens in a lot of games throughout the year. It's not something to be really looked down upon. Good teams create turnovers and take advantage of the other teams mistakes. And sometimes mistakes are forced by pressure which is a function of talent to a degree.
I’m not getting dragged into the mud anymore.
As long as Bo fumbling into the end zone to lose the Egg Bowl is a fluke too. This is so dumb. I get it. Dropped passes are part of the game. My question is why do you and others like you keep trying to qualify everything about Joe in the negative? Well other teams did this. Well it can't be a fluke win. Everything is qualified. Can't ever just look at us and say "of course we stunk on offense but there were things that players did that cost us games that might have been out of Joe's hands."Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
You and a few others would rather be right than MSU win. I'm sure you were one of the ones that questioned this hire and want to be proven right instead of be wrong and Joe have wild amounts of success.
For a program as bad as ours has been comparatively, I've never seen a head coach take more 1st year shit than Moorhead. When 8 wins is the most you've ever had from a first year coach in your program's history and you are pissed at that, you should re-evaluate your expectations. Sure winning 10 was possible, most likely under Mullen. But I think you want Joe to fail.
I?ll never forget talking to the HS head coach that played at MSU. He told me he would never allow one of his players to go to State as long as Mullins was at State. I didn?t understand at the time, but as we continued to suck at recruiting I started understanding.
Not his fault we were 2 dropped passes away from a 10 win season. He had a few head scratchers but was set up for a top 10 season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Preach EV!!!! PREACH!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
Agree w your post.... but A&M has ten drops. No mention of that here. Why?? Bc we forget as a fan base of good fortune, and remember the bad. I'm guilty too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
One of the world's great mysteries is how Mullen sucked so bad at recruiting, yet ended up with 3 1st rounders last season and a bunch more drafted players coming this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Yes they are part of the game, but why do you and a gazillion others keep saying that we were two drops away from 10 wins then? If that's so we were 10 drops away from losing to A&M. Can't have it both ways. The part about us losing is so far from the truth. I'd way rather us win. Way more.and no I thought no was a good hire. Still might be. Great guy. Works hard. I want him to succeed more than you know. W that said last year he didn't get it done. I hope he wins 8 this year. If he does I would consider that a success.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
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Originally Posted by msstate7
I honestly hope joe makes it to play w his own guys. Honestly. Two reasons, one he will have been at least successful enough for keep his job a secondly, see how dan can be blamed then. Should be great.
Not with our passing game last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Well, let me give you some insight on that. It's not a coincidence that they were all on the opposite side of the ball from the one that the Country Club recruited.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The reality of recruiting at the end of the day is it comes back to roost three-five years after a class is put together. That's why Mullen gets blamed for some of our weaknesses last year even though you want to blame all of it on Joe. Joe didn't recruit:
1. A high school option QB that was more concerned with his girlfriend than learning to read defenses.
2. WR's that couldn't catch the ball. One of whom was a last minute add on in April or May because Dan forgot that we had no receivers taller than 5'11" until the spring game.
3. A lack of depth on OL which forced us to play a guard at RT and a guy at LT that may not even start for us this year and has been moved back to RT.
No one is going to blame Dan for anything with our football program 1-2 years from now and I'm not sure why you are even so concerned with that? As far as last year though- there is absolutely some legit reasons to blame Dan for it. The reality is we had 12-0 defensive talent and 6-6 offensive talent. The end was result was essentially meeting in the middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Bingo. Oh yeah, Fitz not shaving his head told me all i needed to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I mean one person is calling him that dumbass name. It's like the girl in "Mean Girls" that tried to make "fetch" a catch phrase. Most people just roll their eyes when they read that stupid shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
Honestly that didn't really mean much to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
But my opinion is based on the fact that I had heard that he was going to Athens, Georgia all the time to visit his girlfriend and I guess to your point that excuse he came up with as to not shave his head was because of his girlfriend's beauty pageant. And then he was suspended for game one. That all said a lot to me.
And I don't mind our players having a social life and having a life away from football. I think that's actually important that they do have a life away from the sport. But it's an issue if it keeps them from doing what they need to do to excel on the field.
All of that is why I am a little harder on him than some on the board.
It's juvenile shit to troll the board. I do hope it's an act and he's not like this in "real life".Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius