that would be interesting. His offense fits in the frozen tundra. Fleck or Miles- good luck Gophers
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that would be interesting. His offense fits in the frozen tundra. Fleck or Miles- good luck Gophers
Fleck... no doubt about it
Is frozen grass considered al dente?
Les in the B1G????
lemme guess:
Miles > Meyer & Harbaugh?
Never gonna let him forget he once said Miles>Saban are ya hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Does random let us forget when he's right about something?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Guys, Guys.... Can't we allll just get along?
remember, "it's courage to accept me...."......
Wait...this happened?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
OhQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness
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Yea haha long ago in a far off time C34 once vehemently defended Miles as better than Saban. Think it was when this happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
https://youtu.be/IDX9cmVBQSQ
In 2011 when LSU won the SECQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Miles refused to change- Saban didnt. There is your difference
No that's not the difference, the difference in 2011 is that Miles was still riding Saban's coattails.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Did that actually happen?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
Bullshit. Nick Saban did not have 1 player on the team in 2011- he left after the 2004 season. Thats 7 years later.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimberBeast
No but he was still living off of Saban's fanbase and being able to open the door and having just about any recruit in the country walk in. Without Saban, Miles would have lasted 5 years tops. He actually ended up doing better than I ever thought he would in the end, but he wouldn't have done any of that without the built in advantages that Saban handed him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
I dunno about who recruited "this cat" or who recruited "that cat"... but I do know this....
Les is EXACTLY who I thought he was from day one... enigmatic, yet likable... great recruiter and a "player's coach".... terrible game manager with worse clock management skills... oft times, LSU won IN SPITE of him... He batted 1.000 on some wacky Les "MadHatter" calls for a few years and then he backed his way into a NC that would make the '11 Bammer NC Team embarrassed...
Let me be clear, Les Miles SUCKS as a head coach (provided he is within a 1000 mile radius of MDL...)
I openly wept when the coonasses finally figured it out 5-6 years after the fact, and put him outta his misery....
I had always heard a rumor that right before the National Championship game LSU's offensive line approached Miles and told him to play the backup QB (sorry forgot the name) or they would throw the game. Miles called their bluff and played the starter but they weren't bluffing. Any truth to this anyone? That was the beginning of the end for Miles. He had the better team that year and shit the bed. Never fully recovered from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
I heard the same thing... regardless, Les gets the credit for how that thing went...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
We'll just have to disagree on who had the better team, however...
Bama should have never been in the NC game- should have been Ok State
Haha, this is proof positive that it is a complete waste of time to argue with any of your hot takes.....if you won't just flat admit how wrong and idiotic you were on this, then you never will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
According to the "goal" of the BCS, Bammer absolutely should have been there... the goal was to put the "Two best teams" in the NC Game...Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
The BCS did what it was set up to do and the best team won the NC that year... It's not Bammer's fault Mike "I'm 40" Gundy couldn't beat a terrible Iowa State team...
This is why I say God smiles on Bammer and its fans in football.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
And now Trump's been elected and he and Saban be mates ... free trailer insurance, rehab and teeth for all. **** It just keeps gettin better and better for y'all **
I'll type slower so hopefully your mongoloid self can understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandwolf
Saban and Miles ran the same offense in the early 2000's. Saban recognized the offensive revolution college football was experiencing- and changed hi offense accordingly. Hell- just look at this season. He has Lane Kiffin- a WCO guy- running the zone read with an athlete at QB. Not a dropback guy. Saban evolved with the game in his 60's.
Miles was running the same offense in 2016 that he ran in 2004. It wasnt working anymore. Especially when you have Harris, Jennings, and Jefferson as your QB's. A classic dropback passer they are not. He refused to evolve- and this was ultimately his downfall. Just look at our last 2 games vs LSU- Miles had 2+TD leads in the 4th Q of both games and acted like he was up 30 points in both. Even though he won both- he damn lost them because of refusing to realize how quick-strike offenses exist on CFB these days. He simply refused to evolve as a coach. He kept coaching in 2000 mode
totally disagree. Ok State earned the right to be there. Bama finished 3rd in the SEC that yearQuote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Dude, it's tough bein' me, daddio.... I'm just gonna be really sad when MDL retires in 2022ish.....Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
I appreciate your point of view... And I applaud your courage in expressing it....Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
No.
edit: also, "deserve" has nothing to do with it.... (see Cadavaer on this one)...
Man ... I feel your paaaaiiiinn **** This why I'm ecstatic all the time as a State fan *Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
No way. Go look at ok st schedule. And they lost to a terrible Iowa state that had a losing record and was 3-6 in the big 12. Bama's only loss was in overtime to LsuQuote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
So that's what courage looks like ***Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
I'm a little confused tho ... he be resisting not accepting Tusk?
No, He's "accepted" TUSK...just in denial 'bout it....Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Now that you mention it, there may be "Stages of TUSK".... hmmmmmmmm
Takes a while to build courage. 12 step program may be the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
I was watching that game in a bar in Dallas. Most of the crowd was pulling for LSU. By the 3rd quarter no one could believe Les didn't pull Jefferson and put in Jarrett Lee. Even the group of black guys next to us were yelling "put the white dude in!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I don't think "Pick 6" Lee could have saved them, but he wouldn't have made the rape LSU was enduring any worse...Quote:
Originally Posted by DancingRabbit
I woulda taken the chance, myself... It was a very interesting game, in person, in NOLA...
It doesn't matter what mode Les Miles was in....he has never been on Saban's level as a coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
And, refusing to evolve as a coach doesn't=shi**y coach?Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
That sounds like the dumbest rumor ever. If any players were actively throwing the national title game because of a disagreement over who started at QB, they are the absolute worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
...except Saban then beat Miles in the NC game and won the NC the next year also with that same offense...and then was undefeated the year after that before an insane fluke play cost him the Auburn game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Random Poster
Saban may have felt changing offenses was necessary, and he's certainly continued his success since, but there's no indication he needed to do that to continue winning national titles.
Tusk heard the same rumor exactly as I heard it and we don't live within 8 hours of each other. Apparently Jefferson had been doing a lot of partying the week before the game to the point the offensive line felt he didn't deserve to lead them on the field. They approached Miles and told him what Jefferson had been upto and that they weren't going to block for him so he better put in Lee if he wanted to win. He started Jefferson knowing full well that it meant mutiny from his OL.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
That still sounds dumb. 'He doesn't deserve to lead us onto the field to help us compete for the national title, so if he plays, we won't compete for the national title.' If your issue with a player is that he isn't in it enough, how is a proper response to give up and refuse to be in it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I'm not necessarily saying the rumor is wrong, just that it sounds really stupid and that if it's true, I don't really blame Miles. It sounds like he was stuck with a QB who didn't care enough and an OL who didn't care enough.