Is he really our 4th DT? What the heck was going on with that last weekend? Was Cory Thomas suspended? Can't believe you wouldn't want to get him a few reps before LSU.
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Is he really our 4th DT? What the heck was going on with that last weekend? Was Cory Thomas suspended? Can't believe you wouldn't want to get him a few reps before LSU.
He's not.
I haven't heard what was going on.
No idea what's going on with Cory.
The biggest takeaway I had from game 1 was my fear of Mullen being Mullen on the stuff like this, shump+holloway over lee and Williams, no peters and mclaurin at s, etc...
I felt like to some extent the "answers" fell in his lap last year on these very issues. But am scared of a role reversal this year...
Also, get Jiles in that #3 corner spot. I'd been high on Cleveland, but it's obvious at this point that he doesn't have confidence for whatever reason. He played timid not to give up the big play against USM and most of those completions were directly on him for playing safe imo...
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Originally Posted by engie
Amen!
The coaches named Cleveland defensive player of the game. If you go back and watch the film, you will see that Cleveland played very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
Oh good God. I've heard it all now. I hope him being named defensive player of the game was like a girl telling you it's not you it's me but we should see other peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I've rewatched it. If they liked his play, it explains our whole problem on defense. He showed a lot of promise early, but hasn't been the same since the missed tackle for td at UK last year. I'd taken up for him prior to that and even did after till this game. But he was playing soft and getting us shredded on his side. Go back and watch how much they threw at him compared to how much they threw at Redmond. It's self explanatory really. He certainly didn't blow any coverages or get beat deep, but he played far too safe(timid) giving up far too easy of receptions in my opinion...Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Nice job avoiding the whole re-watch the game thing. I don't know if he played well or not. But don't trash half a statement and disregard the other half.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg
I've rewatched it twice. Nice try thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Rayburn8
People are going to figure out eventually that Mullen is going to play older guys no matter what. You are going to have to be an early round draft pick to get on the field early for us ala Jones, Bear, McKinney, etc
I'm sure he was told to play safe but that was ridiculous. He did tackle pretty well after he let them catch it for 10 yards.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
I'm counting on Taveze being effective and Redmond getting an early pick to mess up Harris' head. Otherwise, it could be a long day.
people better understand that even when Calhoun comes back, that side is going to get picked on all year, due to the fact that Redmond is really good. Calhoun is a solid player and the second best we have but a shutdown corner, he isnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by DancingRabbit
Most of their yardage came over the middle of the field, not in Cleveland's zone. Our LB's didn't do a good job of getting enough depth and our safties were playing soft. They caught a TD on Cleveland's side but that was on Market and our LB. It's very tough for the average fan like you and GreenheadDawg to evaluate film.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
Threads like this always get me to thinking we are 17ed.
And I guarantee you that will be used against us in recruiting.
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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Which leads to another question, wtf was DeAndre Ward doing playing so much the other night? Is he on the 2 deep? I am concerned we had opportunities to play him but not Thomas & Hoyett.
Torrey Dale needs to be used for practice purposes only.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkyJohnson
Dale did have a nice pass deflection, he is really long. The main concern I have with Dale playing is what does that mean about Thomas. I didn't expect much from Hoyette this year, but I thought Thomas would be a key player. The bottom line is, our staff went hard after 3 Juco's and missed on all 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgwood
Yep, my prediction last year of 10 wins minimum and 11 likely was based on the fact that Perkins' graduation would force Dan to use JRob more.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
My confidence this year is tempered by the hope that Dan will not do the same thing with Holloway, in particular misusing him by repeatedly running him between-the-tackles for no gain.
Let's all hope like hell much of what disturbed us vs USM was first-game-jitters and a desire for the staff to get some game-time for some versus a weaker opponent At a minimum, let's hope Mullen uses Holloway more effectively than he did Perkins' senior year.
If Holloway gets very many carries vs LSU we won't have to worry about him because he will be hurt
I'd like to see a link to this. Until then I call bull crapQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
If Mullen just plays the oldest players, then we are ****ed. That's complete bull shit.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
The whole 'Ugh! Our coaches are too stupid to realize that X (who we haven't really seen anything of yet) is clearly a better option than Y' thing is getting old fast.
I'm not saying the coaches are infallible, but ours make the right decision 95% of the time. They have reasons for every decision they make. People were worried about us using Holloway too much last year as well, and he got 36 of his 45 carries against USM, UAB, South Alabama, UTM, and Vandy. The only other game he got more than 1 carry in was A&M, and he ran it 5 times for 76 yards and a TD in that game.
Our coaches aren't stupid. They're not going to send Holloway out there to carry it 10-15 times against LSU. The only time he's had more than one carry against a legit opponent, he tore it up. Perhaps this is because the coaches knew of a weakness Holloway could exploit? They don't have any more interest in getting stuffed at the LOS than we do.
They hardly ever do this when it isn't justified. I'd like for somebody to give me 5 examples. Everybody points to Perkins vs. Robinson, but a) that's about the only real example, and b) perhaps there were reasons for it? Things Perkins did that we didn't see that much that Robinson couldn't do? Or perhaps Robinson just wasn't doing the things he needed to do until last year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas_Dawg
This concerns me too, especially with Cam Akers and Kylan Hill. I don't think either one of those guys will want to sit till there JR year to play.Quote:
Originally Posted by msugolf
And it wasn't like Perkins hadn't just come off a 1,000 yard season averaging 5 ypc. And he ran up the middle his Jr as well. People act liked Perkins was a 300 yard back going into his Sr year. Which he played at less than 100%. I like Robinson as a person and he is talented. But I wish he had played with more Perkins attitude. He probably doesn't fade away at the end of last year. And maybe that's why he didn't play more. If he became the guy during Perkins Sr year would he have been as effective last year? Never know and it could have went either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Might won't to take that back- because hoops dawg is correct on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
Why can't more people see this. Spot on like never before. P.o.dQuote:
Originally Posted by smootness
And at some point that bullshit is going to cost us wins and high value recruits. Guys like Peters, McLaurin, etc. don't come to school to sit for a year. Some positions need it, like OL and DL, but others don't. You were just blasting Mullen on Sunday for not playing Lee & Williams. RB ought to be the easiest position in football for guys to play early and/or have an immediate impact. Seniority shouldn't mean dick for that position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Talking about taking it to an extreme. People that played a lot as fr, either true or redshirt, r. Brown, Ryan brown, Preston smith, Chris jones, b. Brown, Gabe Myles, Dak, d. Wilson d. Day, b. Claussell, j. Malone, do I need to keep going? Shit. Please stop that we don't play young guys. We play them when they are ready. And lately we have actually had some talent in the upper classes that we didn't have to start puppies. It's not fun starting tr fr on this league. It typically leads to getting ones ass beat. Mullen and company are doing it the right way, I think they have proven it to this point. But carry on. I'm sure someone will. And if it isn't about this, it will be about new tailgating trailers or whatever, just as long as we have plenty to butch about around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sacrifice
It's true that sometimes Coach Mullen plays older players over younger players but I think it's just because he usually trust the older players more. Whether that's right or wrong can be debated but I think it's crazy to think he plays someone based solely on their age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas_Dawg
He obviously doesn't always play players based on age because a true freshman scored our first offensive touchdown of the year and it wasn't a true freshman that the "experts" thought would play a lot so Coach Mullen must know a little bit about what he is doing.
Lol, that's cute.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Look, I can at least understand possible reasons for some of the other situations like not playing Lee or Williams or maybe even Gerri Green that much because other players AT THAT POSITION were getting the time. Since when did Torrey Dale become an interior DT?
Robinson wasn't our only back that outplayed Perkins to a roughly equal extentQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
What?!? Who? Our running backs were Perkins, Robinson, Shumpert, Griffin, and Milton. Heck Lewis and Damian Williams had more yards than Griffin and Milton. I liked Milton and Griffin but you can't possibly make the argument that either were better options.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Manny said the LBs came up because they were supposed to come up when the OL is 5 yards downfield. Our LBs read "run" from the OL and came forward as they should have, then they got throws behind them. The lineman downfield rule was not enforced last week.
lineman being downfield had nothing to do with miss tackles and biting the play action every time. Gerri Green gotta get more snaps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins
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Originally Posted by Coach34
That's a problem though. We don't recruit enough elite talent that we can just have a steady assembly line of elite talent juniors/redshirt sophs ready to step in when out seniors graduate. When we land an elite talent guy, we need that guy on the field more often than not because it's unlikely he's behind another elite talent guy. Like with peters, market and kovan don't have high ceilings. Peters might struggle with the mental side of things, but the sooner he's out there, the sooner he's learning, and his pure athleticism should allow him to make plays our other safeties are just incapable of making, even if they play a little smarter. To maximize out talent on the field, we need to be willing to play our talents regardless of age. Bama can afford to sit 5* talent 2-3 years and still have elite talent. We can't.
Wouldn't lineman being 5 yards down field on play action kind of sell the run even more? If that is what Manny was seeing as posted earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgwood