They have 3 Preseason AA's
They have Bo Dirt
They had a highly ranked Crootin class in 2013
Hell yeah they should be ranked 18th. They are going to be awesome this year. With that kind of talent- any coach could win 9-10 games. Shirley they wont underachieve this year and will most certainly live up to the hype? When they have ever failed to live up to the hype before? This is Ole Missus we talking about.
They are awesome and should beat Boise by 20 points.
How sweet their fall from this pedestal will be? I'm going to enjoy every minute of it.
Best Ole Miss team I've seen in my lifetime was 2008. They lost at home to Vanderbilt. Second best lost to Memphis.
Ole miss friends should expect 10 wins with all their talent. Anything less is a bust and a failure on Freezes part.
If you have that much talent and can't win, then it might be time for a change.
wait a minute.... I sense satire
I'm assuming you aren't being sarcastic? Anyway, I'm seriously wondering, because I'm hearing it everywhere: But does UMiss REALLY have "that much talent"? Or are they simply top heavy? I didn't think they were too loaded at all across the board, and their concern about depth seems to justify that. I just don't understand how everyone is coming to the conclusion that they are full of elite talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
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Originally Posted by Reason2succeed
And its hard to tell with Ole Miss because of their media connections and propaganda. They are the embodiment of thinking something is true because they tell you it is. And you'd be surprised to know how many household names of sports media are connected to Ole Miss some way or another.
Really interesting how Freeze has been talking down this year's team more than last year's. Strategy on his part to keep himself off the hot seat, or an indicator of something else?! Only time will tell!
Might wanna check your satire and sarcasm meters.Quote:
Originally Posted by BossDawg
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Originally Posted by randyholloway
So, among all this satirical banter, let me interject a hypothesis and a few questions. Hypothesis: Ole Miss falls from grace, fails to reach 10 wins, fails to live up to the hype and generally disappoints their fans. Questions: What combination of wins and losses puts Freeze on the hot seat or gets him fired? Which teams must he beat in order to avoid termination (besides State)? Do we really want him fired or just sweating under the pressure? Do we really care?
All I care about it that we beat them on the field. If things go the way I think they will, it will take care of itself.
Not really.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgPoundtheRock
With that said, I'll attempt to play along. Anything less than 8 wins will have their bat shit crazy fans on suicide alert. In their minds, they've already built themselves into a juggernaut capable of competing with the elite. Hell, they had a real fingernail biting 25-point loss to Bama last season. Why shouldn't they win at least 9?
I think Freezus is safe this year, unless he posts a 2-10 or worse. Don't see that happening. But they've got to win at least 3 of their non-cons and beat one of Auburn/Bama/LSU for their fans to stay on board. If they lose to both Boise and ULL, and finish 5-7 (which I think is very plausible), then Freeze's seat will be scalding hot coming into 2015. Especially since Freezus won't be able to claim another Crootin' Championship in February to pacify the congregation. If he starts slow in '15, he could be done before the halfway point.
He won't be fired after this year. Short of a Petrino type embarrassing incident, which with him is a distinct possibility the way he handles himself in public. Now to clarify, he may not cheat on his wife but I could see an embarrassing incident such as him getting into a fight with an Ole Miss fan or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgPoundtheRock
If he loses to us in Oxford, finishes below us in both win total and SECW standings, he will be on the hot seat in a manner of speaking. Now will they fire him if we win 10 and they 9? Of course not. Will they think about it? You bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgPoundtheRock
He talks down expectations every year. His first year he whined about not having a full roster of players.Quote:
Originally Posted by randyholloway
He lied. He considered redshirts as empty roster spots.
The point is Freeze exaggerates how bad the preseason appears. Under-promise and over-deliver is a good formula for business.
We all remember how well they handled the expectations and pressure of being ranked preseason #4 right? Yeah, they don't handle pressure very well. I don't see Lord Freezus handling this years expectations well. Also, looking forward to his little bitch meltdowns on twitter when he gets called out. Cant wait.
I think if Freeze fails to post a winning season *AND* loses the Egg Bowl in Oxford he's out. The recruiting will never get any better than what they've had over the past two years and they are not rational, they expect results immediately. I think he has to bowl to keep his job this year.
Most people expect them to do this, but I do not. I think they're vulnerable on the road against A&M, at a neutral site against Boise, and that Tennessee could surprise them. If they were to lose those games (big "if", no doubt), anything can happen.
Louisiana-Lafayette is going to beat UMiss. Book it.
The Boise game could be telling. They seem to be concentrating too much on bringing croots into their camp the last two weekends instead of concentrating on their preseason camp. It would not surprise me if Boise beats them.Quote:
Originally Posted by randyholloway
I think ULL will keep it close, but I just don't think they have the horses to pull it off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg61
I'm being serious as a heart attack when I say, top to bottom, this is the most talented team in my lifetime. More talented than 2008 and more than 03 (or any Eli team for that matter). I think 08 was more talented than the Eli years and you could argue 08 vs now but I think there is more overall roster talent right now. This is the most talented Ole Miss team in their history.
Rewatch ULL vs Arky last year... UPig ran Hudd off the field. ULL vs OM won't be a game. Boise will be a better game IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Two different types of teams between Arky and UMiss. I think this is the year Hud gets his big time win. UMiss isn't physical enough for Hud's team. They are too finesse.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastMan
that was early, and OM can't pound anyone. Think about Washington state almost beating Auburn last year early. Similar in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastMan
I don't expect ULaLa to win, but I think it'll actually be close. Broadway Terrance can make plays with that receiving corps.
2-way street. Early Arky lost to Florida 30-10 and Bama & SoCar beat them in consecutive weeks 104-7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
Ask Texas what talent means the last few seasons. You could have the best talent in football, but still blow because your scheme is predictable and has been figured out. Not to mention all the "me me me" mentalities on that team. This along with the talent being top heavy and dismal depth, spell a potential disaster of a season, despite the perceived "talent".Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastMan
The rebels should be ranked in the top 10 and should make the playoffs this year. They're the only team in the SEC that has a three year returning starter.
I'm just ready for the season to start. That will answer everybody's questions. No more speculation. No more wondering. No more conjecture. Time for everybody to put up or shut up. We think we should be ranked? We get to prove why. TSUN over hyped? Time to find out. Is LSU really going to be down this year? Let's all see together.
Running team will kill the yogis once again this year
i agree. Sylvester Crooms could win 8-9 games with the talent OM hasQuote:
Originally Posted by BeastMan
If doesn't win 10 this year he will be on his way out. It's the most talent they have had since 1959, right? In all seriousness he better win 8 and he HAS to beat us. If he doesn't he will survive till next year but he will be a fired coach coaching.
I know you said "besides State", but that's it to me. Lose to MSU in Oxford and he's feeling the pressure of pissed off fans and administration.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgPoundtheRock
wins against Texas and LSU will buffer this somewhat ... the guy has been there two years and has taken them to two bowl games along with one pretty good cruitin class ... he has some time left
Well if he loses to the preseason 36th ranked team at home with the most talented OM team in history that would be quite the embarrassing loss for ol' Bucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadDawg
No way they don't win 10 games. Too bad they will lose yo Bama and MsU and come in third.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
The Bears deserve to be ranked somewhere between 20 and 25 IF you believe in preseason polls. I'm not upset about that at all. The Bulldogs probably ought to be in the top 28. But, show me a poll after 2 to 3 weekends of play. Preseason polls are based on perception rather than reality.
Not sure about that. Probably more talent overall than 03, but with a NFL top pick at QB, you can cover up a lot of weaknesses. Not sure I can roll with 08 though. Look at all these guys off that 08/09 run:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastMan
2009 - 1 - 23 - Michael Oher, OT Baltimore
2009 - 1 - 24 - Peria Jerry, DT Atlanta
2009 - 3 - 84 - Mike Wallace, WR Pittsburgh
2009 - 7 - 231 - Jamarca Sanford, S Minnesota
2010 - 2 - 36 - Dexter McCluster, RB-WR Kansas City
2010 - 3 - 73 - John Jerry, OG Miami
2010 - 5 - 136 - Kendrick Lewis, S Kansas City
2010 - 6 - 175 - Greg Hardy, DE Carolina
Add in Snead playing very well in 08, along with Hodge and few other capable WRs.......eh, they'll have to prove that they are better than O's boys. Ole Miss seems to be top heavy to me with not a whole lot of depth.
very true. just don't think early season games are very indicative of a team at the end of that same year or the beginning Of the next year... which is one reason why I don't like kickoff games. If the bears were a ground em and pound em team, I think it would be different, but Hugh doesn't know how to not be cute.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastMan