Ross Mitchell is going to be the best State pitcher in history

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03-29-2014, 07:31 PM
Coach34

Ross Mitchell is going to be the best State pitcher in history

he really is....but he does have the advantage of playing in the Dead Bat Era

But he is totally dominant out there
03-29-2014, 07:37 PM
Esmerelda Villalobos

Sec history sir
03-29-2014, 07:38 PM
Dawg61

Think he's already accomplished that feat. Hope he keeps it up. Ross Mitchell is a gift from the baseball gods. Can we pay him to teach two lefties his magic every single season? It'd be money well spent.
03-29-2014, 07:45 PM
Saltydog

I hope he comes back for his senior year and I think he will. Don't see him being

drafted very high.
03-29-2014, 07:51 PM
MSUDawg4Life

Best State pitcher in history? He's already accomplished that? How did you all reach those determinations?
03-29-2014, 07:53 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by MSUDawg4Life

Best State pitcher in history? He's already accomplished that? How did you all reach those determinations?

Well, he has the best record and lowest ERA for a pitcher in State history that has pitched major innings
03-29-2014, 07:55 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by MSUDawg4Life

Best State pitcher in history? He's already accomplished that? How did you all reach those determinations?

See two weeks ago thread. We did this already.
03-29-2014, 08:20 PM
MSUDawg4Life

Hmmm.

It's still debatable whether he's the best State pitcher in history. Looking at the all-time MSU pitching statistics, you see a lot of Jeff Brantley, Bobby Reed, Eric Dubose and even Jonathan Holder. Not to take anything away from Ross Mitchell. His accomplishments speak for themselves. We've just had a lot of good pitchers come through here who could arguably lay claim to that title.
03-29-2014, 08:28 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by MSUDawg4Life

Hmmm.

It's still debatable whether he's the best State pitcher in history. Looking at the all-time MSU pitching statistics, you see a lot of Jeff Brantley, Bobby Reed, Eric Dubose and even Jonathan Holder. Not to take anything away from Ross Mitchell. His accomplishments speak for themselves. We've just had a lot of good pitchers come through here who could arguably lay claim to that title.

No

We have never had a non-closer approach 2.00 for his career....Mitchell is about 1.60 right now...he has what? 1 loss in his career? He's a freaking Jr

He is 21-1 for his career with about a 1.60 ERA
03-29-2014, 08:39 PM
Coach34

In the aluminum bat Era- no frontline pitcher is close to 2.00 for his career...Mitchell is around 1.55-1.60

That is amazing. You have to go back to the 1960's to the wood bats and when baseball was an afterthought in college to find those kinds of stats
03-29-2014, 08:48 PM
Esmerelda Villalobos

Best pitcher in college baseball history. He is lucky he is so lucky. I know wills chart only says he is our 8th best pitcher
03-29-2014, 08:56 PM
Will James

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Originally Posted by Ennis Del Mar

Best pitcher in college baseball history. He is lucky he is so lucky. I know wills chart only says he is our 8th best pitcher

You're an idiot. Keep misrepresenting fool.
03-29-2014, 09:58 PM
Esmerelda Villalobos

Ok pal. Renfroe is clutch and lingo gonna lingo
03-29-2014, 10:17 PM
Will James

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Originally Posted by Ennis Del Mar

Ok pal. Renfroe is clutch and lingo gonna lingo

When you began the unclutch Renfroe meme he had a .739 OBP and .500 BA with RISP. He was averaging 1.7 RBI per AT BAT w RISP when you said he wasn't clutch.

Lindgren is averaging 2 K's per inning.
03-29-2014, 10:29 PM
Will James

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I actually agree with Will somewhat on this. What he's saying (in a strange way of saying it), is that Ross is a contact pitcher. You don't typically bring in a contact pitcher with RISP and less than 2 outs......you typically bring in a strike out guy to get you out of the inning, and THEN bring in a guy like Ross that gets tons of contact outs and eats innings.

Everyone that is trying to make it out like Will is saying "Ross sucks", are doing it on purpose bc you know that's not what he's saying.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

who said Ross Mitchell sux? Will James didnt....

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Will actually has a very valid point there. More than 50% of the time- Mitchell allowed inherited runners to score. For a reliever, that's not good. It doesnt make a mother-**** what his ERA is. You bring relievers in to shut the door- not just give up inherited runs.

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Originally Posted by The Croom Diaries

You were correct that Ross Mitchell is not the best option out of the pen with runners on base.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I think you guys now see Will's point better, and that he is indeed correct- and he understands he can come off looking like a dick

nm
03-29-2014, 10:36 PM
Coach34

Mitchell is showing now what role he should have been in all along...he pitches to contact, but its usually weak contact. And he is clearly becoming the best pitcher we have had in the aluminum bat Era
03-29-2014, 10:40 PM
MarketingBully01

The thing I like the most about. Mitchell is he never gets rattled and he always pitches within himself. Meaning he never overthrows. He is fun to watch work.
03-29-2014, 10:52 PM
I seen it dawg

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Originally Posted by Ennis Del Mar

Ok pal. Renfroe is clutch and lingo gonna lingo

And Vandy doesn't lose on Friday nights.......
03-29-2014, 10:52 PM
Esmerelda Villalobos

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Originally Posted by Will James

When you began the unclutch Renfroe meme he had a .739 OBP and .500 BA with RISP. He was averaging 1.7 RBI per AT BAT w RISP when you said he wasn't clutch.

Lindgren is averaging 2 K's per inning.

How did he finish?
03-29-2014, 10:56 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully01

The thing I like the most about. Mitchell is he never gets rattled and he always pitches within himself. Meaning he never overthrows. He is fun to watch work.

I'm almost tempted to suggest we pitch Ross in every single game in the post season as the starter just like softball does. He puts zero stress on his arm. Would be hilarious to win the NC that way. It'd get talked about for foreverrrrrrrr.
03-29-2014, 11:01 PM
MarketingBully01

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

I'm almost tempted to suggest we pitch Ross in every single game in the post season as the starter just like softball does. He puts zero stress on his arm. Would be hilarious to win the NC that way. It'd get talked about for foreverrrrrrrr.

Did he even get to 100 pitches today? That has to be one of the most efficient outings in a while as far as pitch count.
03-29-2014, 11:02 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully01

Did he even get to 100 pitches today? That has to be one of the most efficient outings in a while as far as pitch count.

No, I think he finished around 95.
03-29-2014, 11:05 PM
Schultzy

Getting blasted in the Friday night opener at Georgia forcing us to put Ross Mitchell in a starting role early in the conference season may be the difference in us staying at home and making a regional this year.
03-29-2014, 11:07 PM
MarketingBully01

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

No, I think he finished around 95.

LOL, that is bad ass! A complete game and not even reaches 100 pitches. If he doesn't get SEC pitcher of the week honors, it would be a shame.
03-29-2014, 11:07 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

No, I think he finished around 95.

More evidence that Operation Ross Mitchell should be put in effect for this post season. Have him pitch the first 6 innings of EVERY game. We'll win the NC if we do this. Haha
03-29-2014, 11:08 PM
MarketingBully01

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Originally Posted by Schultzy

Getting blasted in the Friday night opener at Georgia forcing us to put Ross Mitchell in a starting role early in the conference season may be the difference in us staying at home and making a regional this year.

I'd go a step further and say hosting a regional or sitting at home.
03-29-2014, 11:24 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

I'm almost tempted to suggest we pitch Ross in every single game in the post season as the starter just like softball does. He puts zero stress on his arm. Would be hilarious to win the NC that way. It'd get talked about for foreverrrrrrrr.

Waaaaayyy ahead of ourselves, but for the sake of discussion- the way Omaha is set up, you can get through it with two pitchers IF you stay in the winner's bracket. They spread the schedule out for ESPN.
03-29-2014, 11:31 PM
Schultzy

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully01

I'd go a step further and say hosting a regional or sitting at home.

I haven't given up on hosting yet but with the way Cohen coached teams play late in the season I'd take a 2 seed on the road right now if given the chance, thinking we'd have as good a chance as any of winning it.
03-29-2014, 11:33 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Waaaaayyy ahead of ourselves, but for the sake of discussion- the way Omaha is set up, you can get through it with two pitchers IF you stay in the winner's bracket. They spread the schedule out for ESPN.

I really think Ross deserves the shot. He can get through 6 innings like a hot knife cutting through butter. Maybe try him for 6 in back to back games and every third game pitch the 2nd guy. Idk but I think Ross is a very non-traditional GIFT that we've been given and the unthinkable becomes very possible with him. The catcher puts more stress on his arm throwing it back to Ross after every pitch than Ross does actually pitching it. Seriously. He's like the singer Sting of pitching. He can go 24 straight hours.
03-30-2014, 07:18 AM
Political Hack

Ross and Holder are going to have to pitch A LOT for us to be successful in the post season.
03-30-2014, 07:45 AM
Saltydog

I think where people get confused is because Ross isn't a dominating pitcher in

the sense that when he toes the rubber he's isn't going to strike out a lot of batters with a 95 mph fastball or throw a no hitter. He's not dominant in that sense but then neither was Greg Maddux.
03-30-2014, 11:54 AM
SheltonChoked

He's not even the best Mitchell at MSU. Read Cleveland's article on Willie Mitchell. I don't care that it was the dead ball era. He struck out 26 batters. In one game. At LSU.

So if you count just the modern era, ok. But not the best ever.
03-30-2014, 02:34 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by SheltonChoked

He's not even the best Mitchell at MSU. Read Cleveland's article on Willie Mitchell. I don't care that it was the dead ball era. He struck out 26 batters. In one game. At LSU.

So if you count just the modern era, ok. But not the best ever.

Kerry Wood struck out 20 in a MLB game. Does that make him tied with Roger Clemens for the best pitcher ever?
03-31-2014, 07:00 AM
SheltonChoked

Willie Mitchell went 6-1. Pitches 56 innings struck out 97. Went to aa ball that summer. Struck out 20. Finished the year in the majors. I'm not sure what you are getting at with your comparison, but all of the other 20+ strikeout games in baseball every year backs up your argument. ***

Wood is not as good as Clemons due to longevity. And allegedly Clemons had help with his longevity.
03-31-2014, 08:05 AM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by SheltonChoked

Willie Mitchell went 6-1. Pitches 56 innings struck out 97. Went to aa ball that summer. Struck out 20. Finished the year in the majors. I'm not sure what you are getting at with your comparison, but all of the other 20+ strikeout games in baseball every year backs up your argument. ***

Wood is not as good as Clemons due to longevity. And allegedly Clemons had help with his longevity.

My point is that Willie Mitchell isn't better than Ross Mitchell.
03-31-2014, 08:06 AM
Saltydog

Not Randolph. He's a lobber. Watch him throw the ball back to the pitcher sometime.

Wonder if he's one of those guys that has trouble throwing it back to the pitcher so he therefore lobs it. I've seen guys before who would just work a pitcher to death.