I don?t hate it. Good move.
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I don?t hate it. Good move.
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Originally Posted by ScubaDawg
I don't hate it... but I am in shock.
Underwhelming but better than Hutzler by miles.
Which means in some crazy what if scenario if we had kept Arnett as DC when Lebby came we would probably be 8-4 this year. Arnett is a legit DC.
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Originally Posted by TrapGame
I don't hate it but very surprising. What happened with other candidates? I been sick so haven't been able to read the board much past couple days.
I'm gonna say this, and some of you guys are going to disagree and that's fine. Arnett never wanted the situation that he was put in. This is a chance to make some of that stuff right in my opinion. He loved it here as much as any coach we've had in recent history. There wasn't a person on this board that didn't like his defense before he was hired as head coach And his defenses were awesome considering the amount of recruiting red tape he had to jump through with leeches staff
I think it shows how hard it is for us to attract established coordinators/coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
Peterson will not be in his ear. Arnett as DC was not bad. He had top #40 defenses. If we had a top #40 defense this year we would be going to a decent bowl game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Better than 50% chance this whole staff will be slamming the trunk after next season.
I advocated for Lebby to bring him back when he first got here. He would be good for Lebby too. Somebody that will get on his a$$ when he's making dumb in game decisions.
No, the odds of us making a bowl game next year just went up exponentially. Hutz shitty defense cost us at least two games this season. Upgrade the OL and this offense with KT will be electric.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
I would say hiring Arnett will get us in a better place. Tell me the last DC we had that was better than arnett?Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
**** this and **** Arnett.
ShoopQuote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Shoop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Yep. Especially with a HC on a warm seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
We know what we are getting. A proven DC. Pressure on the QB will return and the Blitz is back.
Spot on man. The vision is just cloudy right now because of how the situation ended, but he is a good DC. Would I have liked some of the other candidates that was thrown around? Absolutely. Who wouldn't? But I'm happy with Arnett. His defensive numbers speak for itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Very true. Especially if they are worried Lebby is on the hot seat. Makes it that much harder and it's hard enough as it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Fans need to realize no rising DC was coming here to get shown the door after 1 season. Our options were very limited. Throw the same DC numbers with someone else?s name and we would be very happy right now.
Todd, you and I could have called plays for that 18 defense. His 19 defense SUCKED. He was on par, and honestly probably a little worse, than Arnett. Everyone has this weird idea that Shoop was the architect of this incredible defense. He was not. Jeffrey Simmons and Montez Sweat on the same D Line would have made Coleman Hutzler look like a great D coordinator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
For reference, we went from #2 in 18 in defense to #73 in 19. Now, I do not think Shoop was this elite DC and regressed 71 spots in one year. The more obvious answer is that he fielded top 75 defenses most years and he had an outlier year where he was gifted 3 first round picks. His TN defense were not very good either. Neither of them were inside the top 70. Now he was really good at Penn State. So that tends to tell me that he is pretty good when he has elite talent, but when he does not, he is below average.
Now, if you know me, you know, I do not like Zach Arnett. I do not think he is an elite D coordinator. But I do know that his teams are gonna be aggressive and that can cause turnovers. I also know that he can make bad defenses look respectable and good defenses look pretty damn good.
We had better upgrade fast on the back end to run that defense. They are all on an island a lot. And we better get some men up front quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Ding ding ding. This man gets it. Give him a trophy!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
And a proven liar who got us into this mess.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
You can ultimately thank a bunch of boosters for that. These wounds are all self inflicted. We missed our foot and shot ourselves in the dick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
We can do better than this. Come on. Croom hired a better DC than this. Oh the guy hasn't coached defense in two years if you count his disaster being a head coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by STATEBALLIN
You never know how things will turn out, but this is a home run hire for us in the situation we're currently in. Grand slam? No. Home run, absolutely.
Arnett had our Defense consistently in the Top 5 of the SEC, and that was with them on the field all freaking game under Leach's offense. Now you combine Arnett's defense with Lebby's desire to run the ball more and control the ball a little....it could be a wonderful scenario.
Not to mention, Arnett's defenses took the ball away. Imagine giving this offense with Taylor running it more chances every game.
Again, I'm not saying it couldn't also go south...but I'd say there is a much better chance of it working than not. Especially compared to the garbage pile Hutzler put on the field
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Originally Posted by Todd4State
Great move.
He was part of it. He had a chance to do the right thing. He didn't. Arnett should not come back. He's an awful human being. He isn't even that good of a coach and he can't recruit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
This is a horrible decision by Lebby.
This is a swing and a miss. Big time miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Maybe Bookie will get to kick his ass now.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Tell us how you really feel, Todd. HaQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Is Beard a bad human being? What about Kiffin? Guess you wouldn't take them either then.
For a guy that was anti Croom and Moorhead, you just made a very pro Croom and Moorhead comment. We hiring "good guys", or do you want to win games? Usually you're on the side of winning games, so I'm surprised to hear you say that.
Such an awful guy that Ole Miss hired him, Mullen hired him, and we've hired him twice.
With all due respect, you have no clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
If things go South, he can take Lebby to Wendy's with him.
It's a bit more personal with Arnett. It's one thing to give the guy that robbed someone else's house a second chance and it's another to give the guy that robbed your house a second chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
No I do have a clue. Say whatever you want to make yourself feel better this is a horseshit move by Lebby.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Exactly. What do we have to lose with this hire? He's probably the best we could possibly ask for with Lebby on a warm seat. Not sure what our fans expectQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Oh. Games. Recruits. Fan Support. Other than that we should be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg