We can't compete against all the teams hiring coaches this year. BS. We could hire Moe, Curly , and Larry Fine and get better results!
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We can't compete against all the teams hiring coaches this year. BS. We could hire Moe, Curly , and Larry Fine and get better results!
There are dozens of successful G5/FCS head coaches we could plausibly hire, guys who aren't on Florida's radar, or Penn State's, or Auburn's, or LSU's, etc.
My 12 year old told me this earlier. He said get someone like BYU coach and stop worrying about all the "blue blood coaches." Even he understands this is the best concept and way to go about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Just so y'all know.. I ain't saying hire BYU coach. Just putting out there what my son said. Lol
In our situation I do believe that our BEST option is to take advantage of the uncertainty that is happening this offseason with so many coaching changes. Try to add as many great players from those teams from the portal as possible. See what happens in 2026. If we aren't any better in 2026 than we are now then go ahead and make the change and hire a coach with experience for 2027. If the team improves in 2026 then keep Lebby.
With so much movement this offseason the odds are there will be much less movement next offseason meaning the odds of us getting a better coach are higher.
We are just now starting to have stability for the first time since 2022. Also, our schedule is going to get a little easier and other teams will also be unstable.
I don't think we can say that for sure. It think we are entering a "new normal" where there are only 12 playoff spots and around 20-30 teams that think they deserve to be in the playoffs every year, so until they expand the field, there's going to be a lot of angry fanbases demanding a change every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Doesn't matter. Keep him, Fire him, the result will still be pain. Thats the life we've chosen. Doesn't matter who's driving the hearse, we're still headed to the burial
The problem is all these new coaches at these bigger programs are going to get the lion's share of the portal, leaving us with OL and DL pick overs that can't play in this league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
We were a 9.5 pt dog to Georgia, and we lost by 20. We were a 7.5 pt dog to Missouri, and we lost by 22. The wheels have come off
I think the kids are sick of the Lebby Shapen love affairQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The Eggbowl score will be whatever Kiffin wants it to be. In all honesty I'm not certain Lebby can keep his job if the team quits on him during that game. That may be what gets him fired, not losing but the team quitting on him. He has two weeks to make this game a 4 quarter game and competive game.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
What's crazy is that Lebby has toed the line all year, and his dumb ass probably could have gotten poached by a bigger better program and doubled his salary if he just closes out Texas, or Tennessee, or Florida. Not all of them even...just 1 or 2 of the games he had won. And he cost himself millions losing those games. He honestly would have been better off going 3-9 and never having leads and opportunities to beat those teams with more talent, because all it did was present opportunities to show that he didn't have what it takes to close out and beat someone with more talent. That he couldn't coach us to big victories.
Things would be so much different if the Tennessee And Texas and Florida games were how we ended the year, instead of these absolute embarrassments against Georgia and Mizzou, and the impending beat down Ole Miss will give us. We seem to have gone from improvement to regression, and that's not a good sign. If you can get someone proven at this point you absolutely do it if you're Selmon. Going to be tough this cycle, but what's to lose now? Who cares.
For Selmon to fire Lebby would be an admission that he was in over his head which would jeopardize his job ..... we are stuck with Lebby through 2026Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
"Write the check then". Took care of for you 4 Lebby believers we have left in our fanbase. That's all the defense to keep Lebby has now.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I'm hoping we can upgrade our assistant coaching staff, such as OL, DL, and Special teams coaches. It's kinda sad when all you can look forward to this time of year is coaching changes.
We've certainly regressed the last 2 weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We've played 3 line of scrimmage teams and have been blown out all 3 games (Aggie, UGA, Mizzou).
We look tired and worn down on both lines of scrimmage.
I don't really agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We have the worst line of scrimmage in the league. But we went from 2-10 to 5-7, so we should be able to get a little better quality up front.
Why should we expect to get a better quality OL next year? Is our NIL funding going to increase? Are we overhauling our scouting and finding diamonds in the rough for cheap? Is either of those things only happening because of Lebby?Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
In 2024 there were ZERO head coaching changes. This movement was predictable. Tons of coaches like Napier, Pittman, and Freeze on the hot seat. Even in this era teams are going to give coaches more than one season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
We absolutely should. What coach do you expect to win with less money? And again- I asked you yesterday and you didn't respond. If we give Lebby money and you are right he fails anyway but it will make it easier to hire the next guy because we have shown that we have money and support. And if you are wrong we win.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It's not a "defense" it's the reality of this era. And people that don't give like you are partially at fault.
And if he can?t get players up for that game, then he should be fired.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Our NIL funding is increasing. With a ton of movement this offseason yes, we can build an offensive line and defensive line in the offseason. We upgraded at the skill positions with the portal and that's the one area of historical weakness for MSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Maybe we shouldn't have hired an offensive line coach after the portal and maybe we should have a DL coach that is cool with the portal? Those are separate issues. But correctable.
How do you know? Do you have statements from the big boosters who say they are giving more for 2026?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
We've had multiple announcements for football only donations. I think we got a million dollar donation this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Well, I guess we'll find out in a few months if we get the portal haul you're expecting or not. I hope we do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I think they will be because of the environment. I doubt the coaching gets them riled up. They're not listening to Lebby at this point. It's up to the seniors to get this team going.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPMT
I don't doubt Lebby will be back next year. It's probably his last. He's lost this team imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
I doubt very many State fans would see it that way after he managed to bring in O?Connor and give O?Connor Carte Blanche to go get a team built for Omaha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
Selmon did what he was told by the cheapskates in charge. Go hire another Coordinator and pay him base NCAA P4 salary and give him a couple million to hire a staff and he hired what a couple of $million would get us. There is guaranteed $40 plus million coming into the program from the SEC that is generated solely from Football Revenue from TV and Media. But we have fans on here asking a base that probably averages $65,000 income between the still employed and the retirees/fixed incomers to dig into their pockets to pay millionaire coaches and future millionaire 20 something?s.
The tank and file Ole Miss fans are not toting the load for Kiffin! Multi-millionaires are. The same has to happen at State. Time for the NFL guys to give back. If they agree, honor them at games and name the damn water tower or parking garage for them. If they refuse, cut em loose and stop putting their damn pictures on the Jumbotrons!
Because it's easier to sell 5-7 with a three game win improvement and a talented young QB than it is 2-10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
It would have to be someone "LIKE" BYU's coach because anyone that thinks Sitake would leave BYU for MSU is residing in La-La Land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
And the congregation said amen!Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Great post. It's mind boggling to see people are blaming the fans for Lebby and his horrible decisions because we don't give enough money. The multimillion dollar NFL players that got to the NFL because the university gave them a chance should be getting criticized about the NIL ordeal. Although I don't believe anyone should get criticized over it cause ultimately it's their money to do as they please. NIL has nothing to do with coaching malpractice.