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a lower time in MSU football history and I go back 45+ years. Maybe Felker one year or Croom a few years. Idk. MSU fans are eternal optimists but just no juice about anything.
I know portal and NIL, etc are also part to blame but we need something good to happen soon.
Apathy is sleeping at our doorstep.
You are right. Eventually, reality trumps optimism and excitement. Something good is going to have to happen to change that and not sure many see that on the foreseeable horizon. There is an upgrade in overall talent, but what does that equate to with our monstrosity of a schedule? I am hoping and praying for some type of Damascus Road transformation. I guess time will tell.
Maybe Kamario Taylor can be that spark we need
I'd say the opposite, there's no more pessimistic, self loathing, low T fanbase in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Yeah, that's not true either.Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
Maybe it's all relative but when you compare our fanbase with the OM fanbase we are very pessimistic and self-loathing. Right now though, until we see something worthwhile on the field we have good reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
Our fanbase is a college athletics fanbase. We've got self loathing fans. We've got pessimists. We've got sunshine pumpers. We've got morons. We've good fans too.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Every major fanbase has all of this. I'm not going to agree that we have a higher amount of pessimists or self-loathers. It may just seem that way because it's the fanbase you're a part of.
Go to any SEC message board and you'll see the same things you see on Mississippi State boards.
Seems that way to me....Quote:
Originally Posted by viverlibre
But do we have self loathing pessimist morons?Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
All kidding aside, I haven't given msu football even a cursory thought this year. I'll see a post on X of some old highlights and watch them but that's about it. Last couple of years flipped a switch in me. I just don't care any more. I'll still make a point to watch them when they play, but I used to completely arrange my Saturday schedule around game time. Year's past, when they kicked off my fat ass was in front of a tv somewhere. Now, if they're on but somebody in my family wants to do something I'll do it. Life's too short to spend it stressing out over msu football. This fall I hope to spend a lot of time outdoors around the burn pit roasting hotdogs with a pot of chili hanging over the fire or a Boston butt or brisket on the smoker.
Love this place with all my heart, but I have never been closer to finding something else to support. Leach dying and then everything the sport is supposed to stand for just dying woth it has really hurt me
Eternal optimists?? What?? We are the most negative fanbase in America. We complain 24/7Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Bucky this is for you and Basedog and Golden Dog. When college FB was FB.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
https://youtu.be/7iFicRQ6um0?t=301
Can't even get excited about him, someone will buy him out from us.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheewgumm
I have gone from studying the roster every year before season and even attending Spring practices some years to I cant name a single player on the roster that does not play QB.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Same, I know our three QBs and that's it and I attend all the games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I know one player and thats only because I knew his grandfather. Every year since 1973, except for my Army years, I could name at least 11 players on the roster. We always knew who was on the next years roster also. Thanks Transfer portal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Same. It's sad. The level of "give a chit" is on empty. Baseball's fun again though!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Our baseball roster turns over the same way, yet everybody is stoked about baseball. I don't think it's portal and money as much as losing 12 straight sec games by double digits.
That's about to change though.
With the way things are now. With transfers every year. With NIL. With the total ineptitude of the football athletic dept. I’ve really just checked out. It’s no longer fun with not knowing players. It’s no longer fun knowing going into a season we have “NO” chance of even sniffing a winning season. It really saddens me because all of my adult life MSU football was a very important thing to look forward to. Now oh sure I’ll watch some games on tv but the days of driving 2.5 hours up to Starkville and spending lots of money to be there are over.
Thank goodness my granddaughter that was a cheerleader has now graduated and I am not having to force myself to attend all home games to support granddaughter and just to watch a crappy football team. Yes every home game the first thing granddaughter did when she came out for the game would find me in my seats wave with a big smile and blow me kiss!
we will see now how many wins and being drastically improved leads to.
For me it’s because it’s on a smaller level. Same with basketball. But when your roster changes by 40 or so players every season- there’s just no way to keep an interest in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Unfortunately, it has been worse. I lived through 1966-1969: 5 wins over 4 seasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
Also you have data on Baseball players most of who have playing time instead of a kid who sat the bench for 2 years waiting on a better player to leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
But you really only know half of the football roster anyway. About 50-55 guys. It's not hard to learn. If we were 9-3 every year the excitement would be high. We just made bad hires, and that cost us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Excitement will pick up over the next 2-3 years
But then that goes into the 2nd part of it. Because now that its almost totally money-based, I dont see a way for us to be competitive with top teams. We'll have a roster that good enough to stay ahead of non-P4 schools but even less of a chance to compete with the big boys. You have billionaire boosters at other schools now stepping in at places like Texas Tech. Unless we get something like that happening for us- it just wont matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
We got that money flowing in now for baseball finally and basketball is at a very competitive place on the money front- football is not because of the amount it takes
My daughter has a very good chance of cheering D1 in a few years. She loves MSU but has been hesitant about cheering there because she knows how bad we suck. Even starting to consider the other school.
I know with some of y'all 4 wins with being more competitive in the losses will give you hope for the future. I just cannot get there. I realize too that some think our schedule will flip in 2026, possible giving us more chances for wind. Naw! They will just replace Texas, Georgia and Florida from this year with Alabama, LSU, and Auburn again and we are right back in the fire.
If Auburn, Tennessee, LSU, Alabama, A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Florida, Georgia and really most if not all SEC teams went 2-10 and 4-8 in back to back seasons by a new coach, they would have a new coach the next year. Only Vandy and State and maybe Kentucky and Arkansas would tolerate that futility. And THAT is the neighborhood Mississippi State lives in. The equivalent of 39212 and 39204 in South Jackson vs. the first group who live in 39110.
We need to move out of South Jackson and at least find Pearl, South Brandon or Florence!
Plus we have a chance to win a National Championship in baseball. There's not even a chance at a winning season in football. That's another big difference in why we get excited about baseball even with the same turnover ratio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Please encourage her! The coach of the cheer squads is top notch and is very respected. My granddaughter has very much enjoyed her years of cheering at State even with the football stinking. Granddaughter got to go to several away games and experience other SEC campuses/stadiums. Granddaughter got to go to Los Angeles for the women’s basketball tournament. And granddaughter and her cheer team won a National Championship! Going to the other school imo would be a huge mistake. Not the same people there.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog7
That is what makes my withdraw from support of the football. The hopelessness of the future is what is truly sad. The amount of monies that the others of this conference have is unattainable. If we put all of our NIL funds on just football we would still be in the bottom of this conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
[QUOTE=RezDog7;1661291]My daughter has a very good chance of cheering D1 in a few years. She loves MSU but has been hesitant about cheering there because she knows how bad we suck. Even starting to consider the other school.[/ maybe she can hold her nose and cheer
It's all of the above, but winning cures all.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
What are we spending on our 2025 roster and what are KY, USCe, OM, Mizzou, Vandy, Auburn and Ark spending on their 2025 rosters? Total amounts, including the 20.5 million in rev share.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We are bottom 3 of the SEC. Kentucky's drop- like ours- also coincides with the NIL EraQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
This team wins 6 at least. Do not be shocked to see 7
I wonder how big of a drop we have this fall in enrollment due to our ineptitude on the football landscape in all phases?
In all my many years.....the “DOGS" at least always had some defensive players that would knock your **** in the dirt..... at the very least. Now I just don?t see anyone on either side of the ball that will. Truly hoping coach L is a miracle worker......I want to look forward to seeing something besides LSU night games on saturday night..........
How much are we behind each of the teams 8-13?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Who is in the bottom 3 with us?
How much are we spending total on the 2025 roster?
(KY is 9-3, 7-5, 7-5, 4-8 in the NIL era. That's phenomenal for them historically.)
Exactly, we have an elite coaching staff bringing in top end talent in baseball. Both sports bringing in transfers is about the only similarity in the two sports right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
That's only because OM hired a winning coach and they're spending money like crazy to get the players they need. A few years ago, OM fans were us. Their stands were empty. They couldn't care less. We're pretty much at that point at MSU now.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania