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He's just not good.
Surpise, surprise. We still suck.
https://frontofficesports.com/highes...eball-coaches/
#10 highest paid coach in America. He's just not producing for that salary.
If it weren't for Justin Parker we'd be really bad.
We got swept at home against a good team, games were pretty close, so about what I expected. We'll win some like these but we aren't going to host unless the easier schedule gets it for us.
You expected to get swept at home? We are now 1-7 against any team with a pulse this year. That sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I did, why did you not? We're 35-58 in the SEC since we won the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Yes, but 17-13 last year. Was hoping 2022-2023 were in the rear view mirror. Maybe not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Seriously? He's a major reason we got swept.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Coach that Big Mouth Cohen couldn't get 3-0 over mid-pack Big 10 coach from Indiana(who won our NC with 4 other coaches' players including some Alpha dogs who several other coaches could have won with this bunch). Serious question, if we ever do let Lemonis go, will he ever coach in the SEC or another conference that plays big time college baseball or does he just sit on the multi-millions if he has made good investments? If we have a horrible baseball season(again), and baseball revenue falls, will the university be able to fund our football program this fall?*** We still have a beautiful $60 million dollar baseball stadium with a 4 star restaurant in left field to feed opposing fans and their players.***
This is our program now and the odds of Lemonis getting fired if he makes post season is nothing. He might not get fired if he misses it either with the settlement hanging over our broke asses. Hell, they're about to build the Lemonis Shrine aka a restaurant at The Dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
2 things that I just don't understand. 1. The Lineup is always a work in progress. If you have a player who is slumping then sometimes you move him around the order till he finds his spot. 2. There are 2 positions where the players def skills can outweigh his batting, SS and Catcher/ If you have a SS who can cover and shutdown between 2nd and 3rd and throw a dart to 1st then put him leadoff where he can walk or bunt to get on. Guys like that are super quick. A catcher who can block and keep balls from going past him and who can throw a lazer to 2nd from his knees is also a keeper, 7th or 8th. If your 1st baseman is a blackhole esp with RISP then he either goes to 7th or 8'h of you find someone who is 6'4" or taller who can stretch and can hit and put him at 1st. There is no excuse on keeping Freis on the GD bench. The guy was money in the Leadoff. Heck if he has a big vertical leap put him at 1st. All he has to do is throw the ball to the pitcher.
We are 1-7 this year against teams with a pulse.
There are only two careers you can totally be a failure at and not be fired, apparently. A meteorologist and Mississippi State head baseball coach.
If 99% of us failed at our jobs as bad at Lemonis, we would have been fired years ago.
Or a hitting coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Medic601
We need football to show a good jump and invest there, Fingers crossed lol
Until we start hitting fans in the pocketbook for that damn outfield party, I'm not worrying much about baseball. It's about sharing sausage and getting way more than football fans get for their money. That's got to stop. Our delusional baseball fans can't even see we're barely better than USM and OM baseball is right on our heels. It's not an elite program, it's a 17ing party and more about the damn stadium.
You better duck, and I agree with you on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
we get it. you don't like baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I love baseball, but this isn't 1985. For me to worry about an elite baseball program, football has to find footing and the football fans are getting killed money wise to basically help pay for baseball. It's time the people getting cheap rides in that outfield pay up big if they're so called omitted to baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
We have lost our swag in Baseball. Fundamentals are lacking big time! Lemonis……well no need to say anything! iYKYK!!!
Thanks for not wrecking the car and winning us a natty Lem.
Now good luck at The Citadel. We need a coach that can win in this era. You cannot.
That's the basis for concern. And we're seeing the same problematic issues in every phase of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
EASIER????????? How is it going to get easier when 12 of 16 SEC teams are in the top 25, AND WE AINT ONE OF THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Not ready to say fire him because that will set us back for a while before the ship gets righted and it gets better. But he has some uphill work to do to not get fired.
Losing record in the SEC and a Regional exit I think he is gone
Its got to play out.
It's the baseball grove. I guarantee I could ask 100 people at any given time what the count was and 85 of them wouldn't know what the score was, much less the count. It's always been kind of bad in regards to feeding the other team, other fans, etc. But it's gotten awful since the new stadium was built. No one even gives the other teams outfielders hell anymore because Everett or Phil Silva might yell at them for being too mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I hate agreeing with Cooterpoot but he's right on the money. The Grove gets way more out of their money than any other sport on campus. We're losing money because we make those damn rigs so cheap. Jack the price up to 15-20K a season, which is still a bargain and they'll start paying attention and actually giving a crap about the product on the field more than the product on their grill. I mean a regular suite, which those things are, cost 36K for a small one and 54K for the big ones. We're charging less than 5K for the lounge spots. I'd be ok with charging 30-40K for them. But Everett, Phil Silva, and Hobie would revolt that we were pricing the fans out.
He?s 100% right.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Back in the day, Everet and Silva would have been told to go 17 themselves!! Man we used to have fun drinking beer, cooking and giving the outfielders total S*** the whole game. Those outfielders used to earn that hotdog, burger, etc. in the old stadium!Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Replacing this staff will suck yes, its money we don't have and will be a complete renovation of the program. But at this point its about what does the athletic department want the program to be? Competing in for a top 8 seed, only trying to qualify for the post season or just letting left field loungers drink beer, cook and socialize? This still has to play out and there is a good chunk of the season to go so we shall see.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
When the old stadium was torn down, the old ways died with it. I remember we used to give the left fielders HELL. Now, we might also pass them a beer after the game but during the game, there were some colorful adjectives thrown their way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Now you can't be mean because their parents might be out there. Or you can't say things cause kids are out there. Like that stuff happened before and no one cared. You know I always thought it was crazy that people were so sad we were redoing the stadium, but maybe they saw what I didn't see at the time. Maybe they saw the old ways dying a slow painful death.
Our schedule in conference was rated one of the easiest in the SEC. There's no "easy" but it's a beneficial set up for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by schddog72
There was a time when I'd do anything to watch State baseball but that's over. We've catered to a certain group of folks who only care about the shit in that outfield and bragging about the stadium. They'd rather read articles about the cooking setups and feeding visiting fans and they hate the average Stare fan and don't give a shit about winning.
It was a unique experience found only in the LFL. Now it is something that anyone else in the country, that is willing, can and will duplicate.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Correct. If you don't think this is about to be replicated at Tennessee, Arkansas, Ole Miss, etc when they have the money then you're kidding yourself. It's just a matter of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
No, he's not. There is zero correlation between football and baseball. Wanting the outfield people to have to pay more money to the university is quite a take.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
And complaining about showing hospitality to visiting fans and teams is a stupid take. We used to feed regional teams in the 80s so nothing has changed there.
Yeah, we aren't good in baseball anymore, and it has nothing to do with our fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
And the really bad thing about the LFL stuff is that people are calling them out for it and they just double down on it. Like just admit that we don't need to be feeding the opposing team a 4 course meal after they kick our ass and that it's a bad look. Maybe admit that they don't need to trip over themselves and push Mississippi State fans out of the way so they can be the first person to give a Texas fan a 12 oz filet and a case of Michelob.
I can't really pinpoint when the going out of our way so we could get noticed on Twitter crap started but I think it was around the 2019 postseason when the CMU baseball team came out to the outfield and then the Supers that year when David Esquer's wife wrote that article talking about how nice our fans were. It seems like ever since then we've had fans that try to fall all over themselves to see who can get noticed on Twitter for being the nicest person. I won't call them out by name, but you can get on Twitter and easily figure out who I'm talking about. And it's not just Everett and Silva. There's another big one that I got into an argument with yesterday about it. I told him it looked silly as shit that we were feeding the other team and their fans after they beat us. You can't make them see it though at this point. They're too far down the rabbit hole of trying to see who's going to mention them in a tweet.
After all the games were over and we kicked their ass. We didn't feed them after EVERY GAME when they beat us. And it's not a bad take. Teams need to fear the trip to Dudy Noble, not fast for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
It?s this simple: athletic budget shows $2.5MM in revenue for baseball however we spend $5.5MM on it. Thus we have a loss of $3MM.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We claim we are elite program, we have elite college baseball fans. It?s about time that the coaches stop coaching and running this program like a Double A team and start running it like an elite program. And until that time comes, we need to shift about $3MM of that $5MM in expenses to football and basketball. They pay the bills. End of story.
Would rather be nice and lose than win and be proud. I have seen it all nowQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
That's not entirely true, it's just not in the way you think when it come to our "fans".Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7